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Old 04-29-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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Can your entire post not simply be responded to with the exact same end result and takeaway?

No matter how clear it is to me and others that Jesus Christ is God, others can't see it.

?
Sure can!

Which leaves us with the "million dollar question." Who is seeing things clearly, objectively, the truth, and who is not?

For each of us to consider and judge as always. As best we are able...
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Old 04-29-2021, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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They is all kinds of people in the Christianity forum that really do think everyone should be equal. If I spend my life building a house, the people who did not sacrifice their lives by building a house, they will come and try to take your house, and that is the growing mentality of everyone these days, especially Christians.


Most all the Christian's in the Christianity forum really do expect all the great things offered by God, but none of them want to do the things God wants a person to do to be rewarded, and reward is not salvation, reward is something you build upon.

If I build upon something all my life that will give me the option to walk from the outer court of Gentiles into the holy place where only Israel may go, the Christian who CHOOSES to remain a Gentile expects to receive the reward of what is inside the holy place and the holy of holies.

I guess pretty much everyone whether Atheist or believer has mere salvation in the court of Gentiles, but all these Christians refuse to become Israel, heck, they even refuse Gods Sabbaths and holy days and they think they will be counted amongst Israel to receive the reward.


Like people who refuse to work and expect everything should be given to them, the sad part is, it works in this life, but it will not in the next.

"LIFE ISNT FAIR"

That is what 99 percent of Christian's will say, yup, when they are being escorted to the court of outer darkness where they have their salvation with no reward, and alienated from the nation of God, BY THEIR OWN CHOICE, THEY REMAIN GENTILES.
I don't agree that there are people of any significant numbers that think everyone should be equal like a bunch of Stepford humans. That's not what almost anyone means by equality. You didn't sacrafice your life to build a house...unless that's your ghost making this post.

You've rambled on and on about the court of gentiles and Israel and all that baloney. You're free to believe it. But I'll tell you what real equality means -- it means looking at a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or an athiest and making no assumption about the quality of them as a human being. If there is a god -- which I doubt -- I think he's probably wise enough to not be impressed by labels.
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Old 04-29-2021, 05:10 PM
 
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yeah ... so get rid of requirements to hold jobs. That is really equitable and fair to people. Especially police and teachers. If a community doesn't value education ... just remover it from everybody. That always works.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I don't agree that there are people of any significant numbers that think everyone should be equal like a bunch of Stepford humans. That's not what almost anyone means by equality. You didn't sacrafice your life to build a house...unless that's your ghost making this post.

You've rambled on and on about the court of gentiles and Israel and all that baloney. You're free to believe it. But I'll tell you what real equality means -- it means looking at a Buddhist, or a Hindu, or an athiest and making no assumption about the quality of them as a human being. If there is a god -- which I doubt -- I think he's probably wise enough to not be impressed by labels.
I believe in God, and I believe the Hindu, the Muslim and the Atheist are equally saved. Maybe you arent getting what I am saying, but I am saying what the bible teaches.

This body is a tent, it is a tabernacle, IT IS A HOUSE.


Christ the Only Foundation

(Isaiah 28:14-22; 1 Peter 2:4-12)

Corinthians

10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

You are God's Temple

(Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 6:18-20)

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.




NOTICE how people are still saved even after they have burned in the lake of fire, I mean, even though it would suck to be a person who was just merely saved compared to those who stand in the fire and dont burn, THEY ARE STILL SAVED.

Mere salvation is what 99.9 percent of Christians will have by their own choices, but ask any Christian what happens in the resurrection and ALL OF THEM assume that they will be resurrected with an immortal body, but that is impossible after they have watched their own house burned, the house that burned, IT IS THE RESURRECTION HOUSE JUST AS THIS BODY. IS A HOUSE.

You have to be adopted and grafted into Israel in order to even have a chance for an immortal resurrection body, but Christian's refuse to become Israel, they refuse the covenant and the work a person must do to become Israel, but they expect and assume everything God promised Israel. Not only do they reject the religion of Messiah and his people, they became Israel's worst enemies persecuting and killing them because they wouldn't stop following what God demanded them to do.


Modern Christian's play the replacement game and instead of Joining the Jews as a co heir, they think they have replaced the Jews and now they all claim to be the true Jew just as so many have done before Jesus.

The majority do try and force some kind of equality that they have not worked for, they think everyone should be equal.

The majority DO demand that God is going to treat everyone as equals, and that just ain't gonna hapoen.

When were Gentiles ever equal to Jews?

Was that during the first genocide attempt, the second genocide attempt or the third genocide?

Wicked Constantine on one hand, and the evil Martin Luther on the other, both inciting genocide against the Jews until Hitler used the words of Martin Luther to sway his people to war against the Jews.

2000 years the church persecuted and killed the Jews, 2000 years of persecution and death against a people because they dared to follow the commandments of God.


Now suddenly, none of that ever happened, and all the Christian's are on the same footing as the Jews.


Pretty damned convenient wouldn't you say?

The prey and the predator, and now the predator pretends to have always been the prey, and so the predators dawn their fake lamb skins as wolves pretending to be lambs.

I like when Christian's say," God is not a respector of persons, or that there is no special clubs, no elite class.:
That's always hilarious, as if everyone will be treated the. Same.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I believe in God, and I believe the Hindu, the Muslim and the Atheist are equally saved. Maybe you arent getting what I am saying, but I am saying what the bible teaches.

This body is a tent, it is a tabernacle, IT IS A HOUSE.


Christ the Only Foundation

(Isaiah 28:14-22; 1 Peter 2:4-12)

Corinthians

10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

You are God's Temple

(Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 6:18-20)

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.




NOTICE how people are still saved even after they have burned in the lake of fire, I mean, even though it would suck to be a person who was just merely saved compared to those who stand in the fire and dont burn, THEY ARE STILL SAVED.

Mere salvation is what 99.9 percent of Christians will have by their own choices, but ask any Christian what happens in the resurrection and ALL OF THEM assume that they will be resurrected with an immortal body, but that is impossible after they have watched their own house burned, the house that burned, IT IS THE RESURRECTION HOUSE JUST AS THIS BODY. IS A HOUSE.

You have to be adopted and grafted into Israel in order to even have a chance for an immortal resurrection body, but Christian's refuse to become Israel, they refuse the covenant and the work a person must do to become Israel, but they expect and assume everything God promised Israel. Not only do they reject the religion of Messiah and his people, they became Israel's worst enemies persecuting and killing them because they wouldn't stop following what God demanded them to do.


Modern Christian's play the replacement game and instead of Joining the Jews as a co heir, they think they have replaced the Jews and now they all claim to be the true Jew just as so many have done before Jesus.

The majority do try and force some kind of equality that they have not worked for, they think everyone should be equal.

The majority DO demand that God is going to treat everyone as equals, and that just ain't gonna hapoen.

When were Gentiles ever equal to Jews?

Was that during the first genocide attempt, the second genocide attempt or the third genocide?

Wicked Constantine on one hand, and the evil Martin Luther on the other, both inciting genocide against the Jews until Hitler used the words of Martin Luther to sway his people to against the Jews.

2000 years the church persecuted and killed the Jews, 2000 years of persecution and death against a people because they dared to follow the commandments of God.


Now suddenly, none of that ever happened, and all the Christian's are on the same footing as the Jews.


Pretty damned convenient wouldn't you say?

The prey and the predator, and now the predator pretends to have always been the prey, and so the predators dawn their fake lamb skins as wolves pretending to be lambs.

I like when Christian's say," God is not a respector of persons, or that there is no special clubs, no elite class.:
That's always hilarious, as if everyone will be treated the. Same.
I stopped reading after "Christ the Only Foundation".

Let me explain this to you: It's silly to write all of that targeted to atheists. First, we've basically heard it all before; some of us even believed it. Second, we don't believe in god, and hence, we don't believe in the "magic" of Jesus.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I stopped reading after "Christ the Only Foundation".

Let me explain this to you: It's silly to write all of that targeted to atheists. First, we've basically heard it all before; some of us even believed it. Second, we don't believe in god, and hence, we don't believe in the "magic" of Jesus.
Lol, I dont target Atheists, really, Atheists and me go way back.
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Old 04-29-2021, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Lol, I dont target Atheists, really, Atheists and me go way back.
Weren't you responding to my post? And I'm an atheist.
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Old 04-29-2021, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I stopped reading after "Christ the Only Foundation".

Let me explain this to you: It's silly to write all of that targeted to atheists. First, we've basically heard it all before; some of us even believed it. Second, we don't believe in god, and hence, we don't believe in the "magic" of Jesus.
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Weren't you responding to my post? And I'm an atheist.
Yeah, I didn't even know it was you that I was replying to until I got to the third chapter of my book, I do go on dont I.

But no, I get on with Atheist better than Christians.
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Old 04-30-2021, 11:56 AM
 
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I believe in God, and I believe the Hindu, the Muslim and the Atheist are equally saved. (Snip).
NOBODY is "saved" because thee is nothing to be saved from or for. Just Fairy Tales for the cowardly who can't face mortality.
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Old 04-30-2021, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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NOBODY is "saved" because thee is nothing to be saved from or for. Just Fairy Tales for the cowardly who can't face mortality.
Just an expression that their individuality will continue as it has always been.

Maybe eternity is having to live in the shoes of whoever was ever born, and when you have lived them all, you wake up and find youself.

You just keep flirting with Danger Salty, and sweet O'le Hanni might just break out from his place making the earth thunder like a mighty river of fire under your paws n tidal surge leaving only ashes on my wakei, but perhaps when I pass by, I will leave you as a drink offering to those who remain and who are left behind.

Why you should be as scared of me as if was a big old brown bear.

I might turn on you and save you myself, seek out the all father that you be put until my hands, and I will keep all those given to me, and watch you lest you try and break lose as a rib from its cage.

Dont make me chew my cabbage twice.
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