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Old 03-17-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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Nah because my commonsense tells me Islam is a dead duck..
I like what Buddha said- "Believe nothing, no matter who said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own commonsense"

Back to scientists- They estimate there are thousands of intelligent civilisations in the universe, and as Jesus said "I am not of this world", my commonsense tells me that he could be a genuine alien visitor, especially as he had superpowers to do that miracle stuff..

So evidence has no meaning to you.

You believe things that are with you and disagree with things that don't.

Useless to have conversations with you then.

 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:07 PM
 
Location: England
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So evidence has no meaning to you.
You believe things that are with you and disagree with things that don't.
Useless to have conversations with you then.

This thread is called "Believers hatred of atheism" but I don't know any Christian who hates atheists, so the thread is wrong right from the start..

In contrast, plenty of atheists hate Christians, we see it in the news all the time-



 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Germany
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Tell that to Cyril..
Let me introduce you guys to 'Cyril', he was a grass seed (top pic) that I placed on a moist tissue pad and kept moistening it, and within a week he'd sprouted, bless his little heart (bott pic).
And note how he cleverly sent out thin filaments to soak up the water.
My point is that scientists can analyse a seed and list all its chemical components etc, but they can't actually MAKE one, so until they can, they're playing second fiddle to God who can..
Scientists are limited in what they can do, therefore your particular god (and no other) exists.

I see a small flaw in that argument. Whereas my argument is supported by mathematics.
 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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If little old ladies are dumb enough to donate big bucks to smarmy evangelists, they're not dumb enough to refuse to rake it in..
Most modern churches have an advertising budget.

You need to start being more honest about christianity.
 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:26 PM
 
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Most modern churches have an advertising budget.

You need to start being more honest about christianity.
And more emphathy towards his elders-

It seems to me that those who are against atheism for just simply existing are the least Christ like in their words but the strongest supporters of Jesus in their claims

AND Tap this iscale generalization, 8M surecyou may findicate a believer whow is bother agains atheism aND has some emphathy. ☺
 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:29 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Is anyone else playing fallacy bingo?
Mystics plays phallacy bingo. Ask him about his monkey.
 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Germany
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Mystics plays phallacy bingo. Ask him about his monkey.
 
Old 03-17-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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A believer expects that his bad deeds, if not punished in the material world, will be punished in the afterlife, hence his bad behavior is restrained.

A non-believer* has no intrinsic restraint on his bad behavior, knowing that he need only escape punishment for his depredations.

Of the two, which one would you like to have as your neighbor?

(*Non-believers may include those who make a pretense of belief, to blend in with their victims.)
 
Old 03-17-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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Scientists are limited in what they can do, therefore your particular god (and no other) exists.
I see a small flaw in that argument. Whereas my argument is supported by mathematics.
You really have issues understanding the actual status of the things you rely on. Science is limited because of its requirement to measure. Mathematics is a human-created artifice with a human-established rubric of rules and metrics for manipulating those measures to predict or mimic outcomes from Reality. You mistakenly see the measurements (which are "events") and the mathematics as what is going on in Reality. But they are what is going on in our artificial metric space that is entirely the product of our consciousness. When the outcomes, in Reality, match the predictions in the math we can be pleased but not assume isotropy in the other direction.
 
Old 03-17-2021, 01:09 PM
 
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Mystics plays phallacy bingo. Ask him about his monkey.
?????? What the hell are you talking about, L8?????
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