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What you ought to expect from me is deep thought, questioning of convention, and precision in verbiage.
I have learned to expect that your choice in language is designed to excuse the failings of your religion. I don't see the deep thought beyond that. What I see is the language of white privilege.
It's not ontologically possible to own another human being as property?
Have you forgotten the history of the state you live? Have you forgotten that in YOUR state slavery was legal and allowed people to own other people? Do you realize that 45% of the population of Alabama when the Civil War began were owned as slaves?
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Originally Posted by phetaroi
I have learned to expect that your choice in language is designed to excuse the failings of your religion. I don't see the deep thought beyond that. What I see is the language of white privilege.
The truth is that, that was a time when slavery was a generally accepted way of life in many cultures...and it's not as if 2 out of 3 of the citizens of Alabama had ever owned slaves. And there were those that were active in opposition to slavery.
And some christian denominations supported slavery, particularly in the south. Why do you think the Southern Baptists eventually apologized for it?
Because some people do the wrong thing and look to absolve themselves of the blame for years and years.
As you know I grew up on the Maryland-Pennsylvania border. My meeting house had a long history and had been a part of the underground railroad, which helped slaves escape.
It was taught to us that various bible passages led Friends to believe that slavery was wrong.
Unfortunately some didn't do this, or wanted excuses to continue their bad behavior, IMHO.
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Originally Posted by normstad
The article first of all does not tell the complete truth. It only talks about Hebrew slaves, not those from other tribes. It is not being genuine for doing so.
It also clearly states that Jesus never stated that he was against slavery, doesn't it? Because.... Jesus never did say anything against it. Anywhere.
The BS deflection that "slave" is the same as "employee" is being dishonest, and I suspect you know it is. It is justification, that is all it is. How disingenuous to do that!
Jesus, does however, show approval of slavery. In the parable in Luke 12:46-47 he tells of how a slave is to be beaten, depending whether the slave knew they were doing wrong or not. Similarly, Ephesians 6:5, Colossians 3:22, . Titus 2:9-10 and 1 Peter 2:18 all condone slavery and command slaves how they should act towards their owners.
I found the article very much like many apologists who want to deny the reality of what the bible says.
Signed,
Your local friendly Atheist.
So you think I am wrong, I posted a link to my beliefs, and instead of posting your own link you accuse me of "BS"ing, being "dishonest," and "disingenuous"....really "knowing" what is the right interpretation, which obviously is your way....
Except, I was being 100% honest in that post. I guess I am just as stupid as a box of rocks.
Since you are so friendly, you self-advertise it, perhaps you could look at our past posting history that had always been nice and look deep into your friendly heart to forgive me of being so stupid that it appeared dishonest to you. I am obviously an idiot of high dimensions to be that stupid to appear so stupid to be dishonest.
Please forgive me, oh friendly one.
Signed,
Your far off unintelligent Quaker girl.
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