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Old 03-30-2021, 06:14 AM
 
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The science of evolution does not delve into the origin of life or humanity.
This is not true. It is very interested in human origins.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:16 AM
 
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That's to expected from the non-religious. If the miracle is not repeatable it didn't happen and/or someone is lying.
Yes, evolution is a fun origin (hypothesis) for those who believe they are the epitome of mankind not so much for those who are labeled as lesser.
I can only say 'look at the evidence for it' (this is not the place for an evolution - class) and observe that, while abiogenesis at least has a hypothetical mechanism and some indirect evidence (90% seawater in bio -make up tells us that we didn't come from a handful of dust) it's a better explanation than a magic wand.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:19 AM
 
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I can only say 'look at the evidence for it' (this is not the place for an evolution - class) and observe that, while abiogenesis at least has a hypothetical mechanism and some indirect evidence (90% seawater in bio -make up tells us that we didn't come from a handful of dust) it's a better explanation than a magic wand.
man, you are always bang the drum of abiogenesis.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:20 AM
 
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I can only say 'look at the evidence for it' (this is not the place for an evolution - class) and observe that, while abiogenesis at least has a hypothetical mechanism and some indirect evidence (90% seawater in bio -make up tells us that we didn't come from a handful of dust) it's a better explanation than a magic wand.
It's the alternative to religion. It is not only the alternative it is a competitor, complete with disciples. As they say, nature doesn't like a vacuum.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:23 AM
 
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This is not true. It is very interested in human origins.
Let's resolve this off topic topic.

Science is interested in both human and life origins.

Human origins (from a mammalian phylum) is part of evolution -theory. Abiogenesis is not. Though if ever it is provable that biochemicals replicated and (effectively) you had 'Life', I suspect that it Will form part of the theory.
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It's the alternative to religion. It is not only the alternative it is a competitor, complete with disciples. As they say, nature doesn't like a vacuum.
No. Secularism is the alternative to religion. It is possible for even theists to see the value of secular humanism. It safeguards the right to belief of those religions who don't dominate the political administration, not just atheism.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:25 AM
 
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It's the alternative to religion. It is not only the alternative it is a competitor, complete with disciples. As they say, nature doesn't like a vacuum.
How many alternatives are there?

Can you list them please?
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:27 AM
 
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How many alternatives are there?

Can you list them please?
You are welcome to Google various origin stories from around the planet.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:29 AM
 
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You are welcome to Google various origin stories from around the planet.
I’m asking you since you brought it up.


Why the avoidance
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:33 AM
 
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You are welcome to Google various origin stories from around the planet.
But those merely invalidate the particular creation -story of the Bile. All of them fail when compared with the evidence for evolution.
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Old 03-30-2021, 06:34 AM
 
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Let's resolve this off topic topic.

Science is interested in both human and life origins.

Human origins (from a mammalian phylum) is part of evolution -theory. Abiogenesis is not. Though if ever it is provable that biochemicals replicated and (effectively) you had 'Life', I suspect that it Will form part of the theory.

No. Secularism is the alternative to religion. It is possible for even theists to see the value of secular humanism. It safeguards the right to belief of those religions who don't dominate the political administration, not just atheism.
We have secularism. It's as though some are wanting more than simple secularism.

France, Mexico, South Korea, and Turkey are all considered constitutionally secular, although their secularism varies. For example, secularism in India includes state involvement in religions, while secularism in France does not. France has a long history of secularization rooted in the French Revolution.

The United States is often considered to be "constitutionally secular." The U.S. Constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Additionally, keeping with the lack of an established state religion, Article Six of the U.S. Constitution states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." The extent of separation between the U.S. government and religion continues to be debated. While the U.S. is a self-described secular state, there are still references to religion in the pledge of allegiance.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ular-countries
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