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It is a bit of a lame thing to hold on to this creator god bit when there are many religions that do not have a creator god as central to their belief. I think even Christianity has move somewhat away from it, although I am not sure, i have not followed it so closely, may some still do. But nobody holds on to that creator god story as some atheists whose very life seems to depend on it. What will happen if they give up that theory?
Actually, it's the very cornerstone of Christian belief.
I have asked why Christians can't just let go of the creator bit and simply go with the personal God concept. Apparently, it all hinges on God being the almighty creator who can do anything he wants and he knows all things and is everywhere. Well, everywhere except where one looks for him.
But you are right in that not all religions or spiritual belief systems have a creator god.
It is a bit of a lame thing to hold on to this creator god bit when there are many religions that do not have a creator god as central to their belief. I think even Christianity has move somewhat away from it, although I am not sure, i have not followed it so closely, may some still do.
But nobody holds on to that creator god story as some atheists whose very life seems to depend on it. What will happen if they give up that theory?
We will still have many other arguments you seem unaware of.
It is a bit of a lame thing to hold on to this creator god bit when there are many religions that do not have a creator god as central to their belief. I think even Christianity has move somewhat away from it, although I am not sure, i have not followed it so closely, may some still do.
But nobody holds on to that creator god story as some atheists whose very life seems to depend on it. What will happen if they give up that theory?
If you paid attention to what the members say here, you would see that it is the Christians (particularly the literal Bible believers) who insist that the Creator is central to their beliefs.
As a general rule, the atheists (and non-literal Christians) believe science, and know the earth is >4 billion years old and the universe is >13 billion.
If you paid attention to what the members say here, you would see that it is the Christians (particularly the literal Bible believers) who insist that the Creator is central to their beliefs.
As a general rule, the atheists (and non-literal Christians) believe science, and know the earth is >4 billion years old and the universe is >13 billion.
The forum lends itself to clique mentality. It is not a reflection of real life.
I am not. I am gleaning from those who have traveled the globe, lived in diverse places and/or have knowledge about world religions/spirituality. Every now and again, someone will drop some very valuable insight about concepts that are relatively obscure.
I believe we are part of a living system. How would be being in a living system cause people to react in such a way that they believe we are in a larger more complex life form. Is that belief consistent with observation.
Since we covered a deity pretty good, lets move onto some other spiritual beliefs. My question is why would people believe we are not in a living system since the evidence seems to match alive more than not alive. Why do people believe things that counter observations. So just using the traits of life in any basic bio book. Why "Mr. Believer man" would believe we are not in a more complex system.
What evidence does mr. believer man have to suggest we are not in a more complex system. Why would I believe that all spiritual claims are not reliable when the data suggest that not all of them are.
when is "Mr Believing man" in some thing actually more reliable than "Mr believing man" in no claims what so ever and is there a way we can tell.
If you paid attention to what the members say here, you would see that it is the Christians (particularly the literal Bible believers) who insist that the Creator is central to their beliefs.
As a general rule, the atheists (and non-literal Christians) believe science, and know the earth is >4 billion years old and the universe is >13 billion.
I am glad you have noted that science is also just a belief. We are all believermenandwomen. Which is fine. We believe what works for us.
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