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Old 05-13-2021, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Non-participation is not an option.
In Virginia, sex ed was an opt-out program, although now I think it has become an opt-in program.

The feds have nothing to do with it. It's a state curriculum.

 
Old 05-13-2021, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Maybe CB is right. After all, in Israel and the Gaza Strip, many, many gatherings include public prayers. And look how well that's working now...and overall for the past few hundred years. I know in my lifetime of 70 years I've never heard of any violence ever done in the Middle East...the Holy Land. Their prayers certainly solved the problem of unrest in the Middle East through good decision making and god's help.
 
Old 05-13-2021, 08:55 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Non-participation is not an option.
Really? I did not know that.
 
Old 05-13-2021, 08:59 PM
 
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Maybe CB is right. After all, in Israel and the Gaza Strip, many, many gatherings include public prayers. And look how well that's working now...and overall for the past few hundred years. I know in my lifetime of 70 years I've never heard of any violence ever done in the Middle East...the Holy Land. Their prayers certainly solved the problem of unrest in the Middle East through good decision making and god's help.
Even your sarcasm suffers from relying on non-sequiturs. Perhaps you should not try to exercise a wit you do not seem to have.
 
Old 05-13-2021, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Even your sarcasm suffers from relying on non-sequiturs. Perhaps you should not try to exercise a wit you do not seem to have.
This was a separate post, not a response to a particular post. So it's not a non-sequitur.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 04:52 AM
 
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What I have not seen as of yet is an explanation of why public expression of religion in a school, or a city council meeting, or whatever is sooooo horrible and is such a terrible violation of federal law, but we see states allow many many things that are outlawed on the federal level, and no one here is whining about it.

It's an honest question. I'm willing to consider it, and I'd love for someone to explain that.
You have yet to explain why doing your jesus prayer ritual can't be done outside of the meeting before the meeting starts, why is so important to do the prayer after the gavel hits the block BFun?

Now just ignore the hard questions.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 05:36 AM
 
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You have yet to explain why doing your jesus prayer ritual can't be done outside of the meeting before the meeting starts, why is so important to do the prayer after the gavel hits the block BFun?

Now just ignore the hard questions.
The explanation is simple, and you already know it: Because that is the preference.
It is not a matter of what "can or can't be done"...it is a matter of what is preferred to be done.
All people would like things to be the way they would prefer them to be. Some will even endeavor to compel their preference.
There will almost always be those with differing preferences.
It will then be based upon "might" (regardless of the source of that "might") what "preference" prevails over others.
People can chose to be magnanimous and defer to the preference of others over their own...or not.
That is The Way of The World.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 06:03 AM
 
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You have yet to explain why doing your jesus prayer ritual can't be done outside of the meeting before the meeting starts, why is so important to do the prayer after the gavel hits the block BFun?

Now just ignore the hard questions.
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The explanation is simple, and you already know it: Because that is the preference.
It is not a matter of what "can or can't be done"...it is a matter of what is preferred to be done.
All people would like things to be the way they would prefer them to be. Some will even endeavor to compel their preference.
There will almost always be those with differing preferences.
It will then be based upon "might" (regardless of the source of that "might") what "preference" prevails over others.
People can chose to be magnanimous and defer to the preference of others over their own...or not.
That is The Way of The World.
Do you think this is okay to pray to jesus before Government meeting Gldn?

Is this your excuse also BFun?
 
Old 05-14-2021, 06:13 AM
 
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Do you think this is okay to pray to jesus before Government meeting Gldn?

Is this your excuse also BFun?
Sure...it's no more or less "okay" than most anything else.
It falls into the "no big deal", and, "only people that can't get a grip on their emotional headtrips will care" category.
 
Old 05-14-2021, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Germany
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What I have not seen as of yet is an explanation of why public expression of religion in a school, or a city council meeting, or whatever is sooooo horrible and is such a terrible violation of federal law, but we see states allow many many things that are outlawed on the federal level, and no one here is whining about it.

It's an honest question. I'm willing to consider it, and I'd love for someone to explain that.
Slippery slopes, how do they work?
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