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If the Uygurs were not Muslim, they would not be in concentration camps. That is a lie that it is only "political".
It is the persecution of the Religious (for being Religious) by the NonReligious. You rarely, if ever, see the Believers using profanity, or putting forth the hateful insults, telling people they are mentally-ill or that they are morons, etc. The Militant Anti-Religionists even start threads to that effect.
You call quoting the doctrine of the Theological Texts (especially about necrodestination punishment) as the same thing as levying insults and hateful bashing just from one's own self. It's not.
Every week the FFRF publishes mail it receives from people that criticize the activities of the Foundation. The amount of profanity, insults and disparaging remarks they receive from Christians is astounding, but also quite entertaining.
Every week the FFRF publishes mail it receives from people that criticize the activities of the Foundation. The amount of profanity, insults and disparaging remarks they receive from Christians is astounding, but also quite entertaining.
Even beyond that, there is nothing more insulting and disparaging than telling a person (or even just believing that a person) with a different belief is going to hell. It's the ultimate insult and disparagement.
If the Uygurs were not Muslim, they would not be in concentration camps. That is a lie that it is only "political".
The Chinese Muslims (plus the other religions) who are NOT in camps show who is lying. Once again, China has freedom of religion as long as you follow their rules. And the Uighurs are too independent, and form a soft border with other Islamic countries, such as the radical movements in Turkestan. That is a problem for the Chinese (who's ruling party also contains religious members, mostly folk religion).
You should not call others liars.
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It is the persecution of the Religious (for being Religious) by the NonReligious.
Over 75% of the Chinese are religious, and are free to practice their religion, although the number of atheists in the cities is higher. There is more to the Uighur persecution than religion, but do not let that stop you repeating your cüm hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy just to bash atheists.
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You rarely, if ever, see the Believers using profanity, or putting forth the hateful insults, telling people they are mentally-ill or that they are morons, etc.
And you accused me of lying.
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The Militant Anti-Religionists even start threads to that effect.
Some do, but you pretend everyone is doing this. You have even falsely accused me of doing this.
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You call quoting the doctrine of the Theological Texts (especially about necrodestination punishment) as the same thing as levying insults and hateful bashing just from one's own self. It's not.
Stop misrepresenting Psalms 14:1, but thank you for condemning the religious killings I mentioned (otherwise that would be a lie of admission ). Oh, wait, you did not condemn them.
If the Uygurs were not Muslim, they would not be in concentration camps. That is a lie that it is only "political".
It is the persecution of the Religious (for being Religious) by the NonReligious.
You rarely, if ever, see the Believers using profanity, or putting forth the hateful insults, telling people they are mentally-ill or that they are morons, etc. The Militant Anti-Religionists even start threads to that effect.
You call quoting the doctrine of the Theological Texts (especially about necrodestination punishment) as the same thing as levying insults and hateful bashing just from one's own self. It's not.
I would say we see the exact same tactics used by fundy think types. weather god or anti-god makes less of a difference.
Its just that believing in something makes so much more sense (science and engineering wise that is) that believers out number non believers so there will be ,more of irrational believers.
But we can chuck that out the window, mesa said we don't need evidence for a belief.
Again, you havent ever read the bible, it teaches evolution from cover to cover, being born a new creature within your own life from the mind of a beast to the mind of a man, and then to an angel.
Christian's dont get it either, but it not only teaches evolution, it teaches the big bang and how Theia slammed into the earth and became our moon. It also teaches how the land appeared out of the water and that had just recently been proven.
Yea, I know, you will laugh, but the covenant God has with the earth, moon and sun is the same covenant he had with his people showing allegory and metaphor with their lived representing the earth, moon, waters, and sun.
Even beyond that, there is nothing more insulting and disparaging than telling a person (or even just believing that a person) with a different belief is going to hell. It's the ultimate insult and disparagement.
That is straight from the Theological Texts...not invented from just their own mind/persona.
It is not an "insult" to point out "rules/laws" and the noted sanctions for noncompliance...no matter what the issue or source. The written "rules" and punishments are what they are...the Believers did not come up with those rules and punishments themselves.
Any insults & criticism by Militant Atheists of Theological Beliefs and Believers...come from them, not another source.
Again, you havent ever read the bible, it teaches evolution from cover to cover, being born a new creature within your own life from the mind of a beast to the mind of a man, and then to an angel.
Christian's dont get it either, but it not only teaches evolution, it teaches the big bang and how Theia slammed into the earth and became our moon. It also teaches how the land appeared out of the water and that had just recently been proven.
Yea, I know, you will laugh, but the covenant God has with the earth, moon and sun is the same covenant he had with his people showing allegory and metaphor with their lived representing the earth, moon, waters, and sun.
You're a universe of 1, or, perhaps .5, in that belief..
That is straight from the Theological Texts...not invented from just their own mind/persona.
It is not an "insult" to point out "rules/laws" and the noted sanctions for noncompliance...no matter what the issue or source. The written "rules" and punishments are what they are...the Believers did not come up with those rules and punishments themselves.
Any insults & criticism by Militant Atheists of Theological Beliefs and Believers...come from them, not another source.
It should be noted, that by "noncompliance", he really means "noncompliance with our make-believe BS".
Again, you havent ever read the bible, it teaches evolution from cover to cover, being born a new creature within your own life from the mind of a beast to the mind of a man, and then to an angel.
Christian's dont get it either, but it not only teaches evolution, it teaches the big bang and how Theia slammed into the earth and became our moon. It also teaches how the land appeared out of the water and that had just recently been proven.
Yea, I know, you will laugh, but the covenant God has with the earth, moon and sun is the same covenant he had with his people showing allegory and metaphor with their lived representing the earth, moon, waters, and sun.
Bubba, when the earth was being born, it was molten, condensed interstellar gas, that cooled slightly over billions of years until the thin crust of solid material we live on was created.. Water came much much later, presumably from comets.
One of the things that believers do (or don't do) is ignore obvious, HUGE disconnects between what they profess on one hand, and what they profess on the other. Dots they old to be true, but which not only can't be connected, but are in direct contravention to each other.
Well-known radio host Dennis Prager is a believer in the perfect, all knowing god of the bible. A god to wise and powerful as to have created the Universe and all that is in it, including ALL the laws of nature, all the way down to the forces that hold the various particles of atoms together.
Yet, in the next breath, he describes mankind, the crowning achievement of this "creator", as being deeply flawed!
Whoa Nelly, how can that be. Onmi-whatever creator that is infinitely-wise and powerful, and the best he can come up with is a deeply flawed mankind! Really!
The contradiction is immense to the point of infinity.
I do agree that mankind is deeply flawed, so it must be the other side of the contradiction that is fatally-flawed, i.e. that there is an omni-this and omni-that creator., It simply can't be both ways if one is in the least bit intellectually-honest (not a characteristic, however, properly associated with believers or believing).
Your logic did not match the title of your first post. You cited an individual contradictions to prove that a deity does not exist?!
Other people in this forum have presented their cases using logic and science as they see it to prove that a deity does not exist. Whether I agree or disagree with their premises does not undermine my respect for their presentations. However, with you, you attack an individual and use that to prove that a god does not not exist. Sorry, to me you presented an illogical argument, very flawed. I believe there is a fallacy in logic that you used. I do not remember which one; try again.
You have a great day.
elamigo
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). Oh, wait, you did not condemn them. 
