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I would argue that slavery is an example of a hierarchy in practice that sometimes religion supported (or opposed).
I read a lot of pacifist literature and it seems to me that religion helped institute slavery, slavery was a form of hierarchy and that hierarchy led to severe violence and a loss of inalienable rights.
Sorry if this doesn't make sense......I guess when you read pacifist literature so much maybe you get lost in the weeds from other points of view.
I would argue that slavery is an example of a hierarchy in practice that sometimes religion supported (or opposed).
I read a lot of pacifist literature and it seems to me that religion helped institute slavery, slavery was a form of hierarchy and that hierarchy led to severe violence and a loss of inalienable rights.
Sorry if this doesn't make sense......I guess when you read pacifist literature so much maybe you get lost in the weeds from other points of view.
I would argue that slavery is an example of a hierarchy in practice that sometimes religion supported (or opposed).
I read a lot of pacifist literature and it seems to me that religion helped institute slavery, slavery was a form of hierarchy and that hierarchy led to severe violence and a loss of inalienable rights.
Sorry if this doesn't make sense......I guess when you read pacifist literature so much maybe you get lost in the weeds from other points of view.
I second that ... it makes sense to me.
Do you have a better system than having an hierarchy of structure?
I understand we can seriously lessen religion power by trying to convince people that a structure is not needed, but is no hierarchy really any better, as a whole, for any institution?
Do you have a better system than having an hierarchy of structure?
I understand we can seriously lessen religion power by trying to convince people that a structure is not needed, but is no hierarchy really any better, as a whole, for any institution?
Thank you for making the point I made in post 124. Organizations tend to begin to evolve more into serving the institution than the people.
We can twist it anyway we want, like the reference to weakening religions power (or any other agenda, good or bad) by trying to convince people its the hierarchy of structure is the problem. we can insert "self severing institution" if we want. Its a feedback loop in reality.
The question is how big is too big or how small is too small. The forefathers choose the state level as a start. Its actually not a bad idea.
Thank you for making the point I made in post 124. Organizations tend to begin to evolve more into serving the institution than the people.
True, the default motivation for everything in this material Reality, including organizations, is survival, Phet. But what Jesus revealed is that for human beings there is a higher spiritual goal that can run counter to our physical survival. "If you seek to save your physical life no matter what you can actually lose your spiritual life."
True, the default motivation for everything in this material Reality, including organizations, is survival, Phet. But what Jesus revealed is that for human beings there is a higher spiritual goal that can run counter to our physical survival. "If you seek to save your physical life no matter what you can actually lose your spiritual life."
To me, there is nothing wrong with "turtles all the way down".
Until we see only turtles.
True, the default motivation for everything in this material Reality, including organizations, is survival, Phet. But what Jesus revealed is that for human beings there is a higher spiritual goal that can run counter to our physical survival. "If you seek to save your physical life no matter what you can actually lose your spiritual life."
Which is fine...for those who believe in christianity.
I would argue that slavery is an example of a hierarchy in practice that sometimes religion supported (or opposed).
I read a lot of pacifist literature and it seems to me that religion helped institute slavery, slavery was a form of hierarchy and that hierarchy led to severe violence and a loss of inalienable rights.
Sorry if this doesn't make sense......I guess when you read pacifist literature so much maybe you get lost in the weeds from other points of view.
Some people supported slavery, some didn't. Some used religion to do either.
And it would be an example of hierarchy that is not Biblical. I know of nothing in the Bible that would justify slavery as America knew it, but it's a corruption of Scripture.
Some people supported slavery, some didn't. Some used religion to do either.
And it would be an example of hierarchy that is not Biblical. I know of nothing in the Bible that would justify slavery as America knew it, but it's a corruption of Scripture.
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