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The Deities/Gods exist conceptually, by & through those metaphorical writings.
Concepts do exist. No?
They just don't exist materially...but, of course, that isn't the only type of "existence" there is.
Do you have thoughts and ideas that exist?
Answer that...and you will come to a greater understanding of how those Deities & Gods exist.
Those Deities/Gods DON'T EXIST.
Only the **CONCEPT** of those Deities/Gods exist. Therefore, those Deities/Gods DON'T EXIST.
Those Deities/Gods DON'T EXIST.
Only the **CONCEPT** of those Deities/Gods exist. Therefore, those Deities/Gods DON'T EXIST.
Apologies, but you didn't understand, what Gldnrule was saying.
If there is a mental concept of something, it exists, thought, maybe, just as a mental concept. But, you can't deny its existence, even in such an "odd" form".
Also, I'd absolutely suggest to read up on thoughtforms, or egregores.
Please, keep in mind one fact. That YOU believe that something does not exist, absolutely does not prove it to be so.
I don't live my life so preoccupied with other religions' gods that I care to take the negative position. Maybe that's you, or others here, but I'd rather talk about Jesus.
But I am glad that you recognize Brahma to be a different god.
Brahma is not a god, it doesn't exist, it's just a concept. The middle god of the Christianity trinity is not a god, it doesn't exist, it's just a concept.
People are entitled to believe in, or not believe in, the various mythical gods like Brahma, the trinity, Apollo, the non trinity Allah, the non trinity YWH, Zeus etc etc etc. It's called "freedom".
That's true, it doesn't "set". What happens is planet Earth rotates on its axis. And for the full 24 or so hours of that rotation, the sun remains in its natural location in the universe. The sun doesn't "change" itself in order to conform to Earth daily times. The sun doesn't "travel" across our sky.
Apologies, but you didn't understand, what Gldnrule was saying.
If there is a mental concept of something, it exists, thought, maybe, just as a mental concept. But, you can't deny its existence, even in such an "odd" form".
Also, I'd absolutely suggest to read up on thoughtforms, or egregores.
Please, keep in mind one fact. That YOU believe that something does not exist, absolutely does not prove it to be so.
jumbo may be juvenile (not an insult, just a statement of thought processes) in his approach to religion and spirituality, but he is correct none the less here.
We can go to matrix style evaluation and say what is anything around us but a concept, but that's not what we are really saying here.
We are saying the deity in many religions is not real, as even a rainbow is real, as we would classify "something" anyway. In fact, upon brief discussion, we would say they are only as real as a thought about a pink elephant is in our brains.
That's true, it doesn't "set". What happens is planet Earth rotates on its axis. And for the full 24 or so hours of that rotation, the sun remains in its natural location in the universe. The sun doesn't "change" itself in order to conform to Earth daily times. The sun doesn't "travel" across our sky.
No gods exist, whether you like that statement or not. "Perceptions" of gods exist.
bold above is your belief.
as post below points out quite accurately, your belief is not a fact. (maybe learn to differentiate between belief, fact, opinion, view)
i agree with the fact that is stated below in bold
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Originally Posted by ukrkoz
Apologies, but you didn't understand, what Gldnrule was saying. If there is a mental concept of something, it exists, thought, maybe, just as a mental concept. But, you can't deny its existence, even in such an "odd" form". Also, I'd absolutely suggest to read up on thoughtforms, or egregores. Please, keep in mind one fact. That YOU believe that something does not exist, absolutely does not prove it to be so.
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