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no, not at all
"contemplation" and "conscious awareness" are not suffering. nor do they create suffering.
suffering and agonizing are not a byproduct of awareness.
it's the difference between observing a match which sparks and then fizzles; or pouring gasoline on a lit match which creates a conflagration.
we have the option to not pour the gasoline.
You have some enormous gaps in your logic and reasoning if you think you can agonize over anything without contemplation and conscious awareness!!! I am astounded how many minds here just seem not to work properly. No wonder the world is as screwed up as it is.
You have some enormous gaps in your logic and reasoning if you think you can agonize over anything without contemplation and conscious awareness!!! I am astounded how many minds here just seem not to work properly. No wonder the world is as screwed up as it is.
nor does the view expressed above demonstrate "contemplation' or "conscious awareness."
nor does the view expressed above demonstrate "contemplation' or "conscious awareness."
I had no idea how illogical and distorted your knowledge and reasoning about conscious awareness was. What the hell do you think is doing the agonizing????
pain belongs to the body. suffering is in the mind. neither belongs to the awareness. consciousness is the witness, it is neither affected by the pain nor the suffering. identify with the consciousness, not the body and the mind.
pain belongs to the body. suffering is in the mind. neither belongs to the awareness. consciousness is the witness, it is neither affected by the pain nor the suffering. identify with the consciousness, not the body and the mind.
pain belongs to the body. suffering is in the mind. neither belongs to the awareness. consciousness is the witness, it is neither affected by the pain nor the suffering. identify with the consciousness, not the body and the mind.
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel
yes
What the hell do you two think the mind IS if it is NOT our consciousness ???? You guys are seriously screwed up by the esoteric literature.
What the hell do you two think the mind IS if it is NOT our consciousness ???? You guys are seriously screwed up by the esoteric literature.
they are not the same
the essence of who you are (true self; being; pure awareness) (sometimes called the witness or the watcher)
is not your mind.
and is not your body.
and is not your emotions.
there is a reason that silence is a central practice, a core element, in many paths of religion and spirituality.
in stillness, in silence, when the mind is stilled and not thinking, when a person can stop the thoughts.
the essence of who you are (true self; being; pure awareness) (sometimes called the witness or the watcher)
is not your mind.
and is not your body.
and is not your emotions.
there is a reason that silence is a central practice, a core element, in many paths of religion and spirituality.
in stillness, in silence, when the mind is stilled and not thinking, when a person can stop the thoughts.
What the hell do you two think the mind IS if it is NOT our consciousness ???? You guys are seriously screwed up by the esoteric literature.
Watch your language, Mystic. Why should this make you so angry? Again esoteric only means special language. If you cannot read greek and latin, learn it. Dont complain it is greek and latin to you.
Mind is within you, Conciousness is everywhere. We all, all sentient beings, are within the same Conciousness. Our individual minds are our own, result of our inner framework. Change your inner framework, change your mind.
Watch your language, Mystic. Why should this make you so angry? Again esoteric only means special language. If you cannot read greek and latin, learn it. Dont complain it is greek and latin to you.
Mind is within you, Conciousness is everywhere. We all, all sentient beings, are within the same Conciousness. Our individual minds are our own, result of our inner framework. Change your inner framework, change your mind.
"We all, all sentient beings, are within the same Conciousness."
What do you mean by that?
And how are you defining "sentient beings"?
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