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Old 09-25-2021, 02:17 PM
 
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Again?
Relevant every time.
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Old 09-25-2021, 04:32 PM
 
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You and gld have it all figured out too.

"Shun?"

What I call a bit of drama there again...
Yes, you need to evoke emotion. Your ten commandments, cement theory, and atheist creed can't do squat outside of emotion. And you know it.

I use observation. I have far less of an ax to grind than you.
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Old 09-26-2021, 03:47 AM
 
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I came across something recently and it was about certainly. Certainty is an emotion and not a conclusion.
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Old 09-26-2021, 07:35 AM
 
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I came across something recently and it was about certainly. Certainty is an emotion and not a conclusion.
So we can't conclude anything with certainty? Unemotionally?
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Old 09-26-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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So we can't conclude anything with certainty? Unemotionally?
Conclusions are still conclusions but the feeling of being certain is just that, a feeling. I won't be able to explain it very well so here is my source. The first couple of minutes made me understand what they were talking about but I got lost with the rest of it as it's over my head.

https://youarenotsosmart.com/2021/05...-a-conclusion/

This is the man being interviewed

https://www.rburton.com/
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:13 AM
 
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I notice that lots of people on the Religion & Spirituality forum adopt the stance written in the title of this topic.
People like Hindus, Christians, Pantheists, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, agnostics etc. They often claim to have "proof" of the content accuracy of their beliefs/opinions, & will usually not change their beliefs/opinions regardless of what anyone else proves or doesn't prove, says or doesn't say, & believes or doesn't believe. They think "I'm right & if you don't agree then you're wrong".

Are you better than that? If so, why and how?
That's true for life, in general. Everyone thinks they're correct about whatever the topic.

The question is what do we base our beliefs on? Do we base them off of feelings? Opinions? Scripture? I'd rather base mine off of what God has said.
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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That's true for life, in general. Everyone thinks they're correct about whatever the topic.

The question is what do we base our beliefs on? Do we base them off of feelings? Opinions? Scripture? I'd rather base mine off of what God has said.
By "what God has said," are you referring to the opinions written down by ancient superstitious people, or the stuff that you hear in your head?
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Old 09-26-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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Conclusions are still conclusions but the feeling of being certain is just that, a feeling. I won't be able to explain it very well so here is my source. The first couple of minutes made me understand what they were talking about but I got lost with the rest of it as it's over my head.

https://youarenotsosmart.com/2021/05...-a-conclusion/

This is the man being interviewed

https://www.rburton.com/
"certainty", can mean when you hear another interpretation you kind of know it doesn't fit as well as some others.

Like once I saw a guy say that the Aztecs, or Mayan, one of them, cut the stone using parabolic mirrors. Just based on the engineering I was certain that's probably not what they did.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:14 AM
 
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Conclusions are still conclusions but the feeling of being certain is just that, a feeling. I won't be able to explain it very well so here is my source. The first couple of minutes made me understand what they were talking about but I got lost with the rest of it as it's over my head.

https://youarenotsosmart.com/2021/05...-a-conclusion/

This is the man being interviewed

https://www.rburton.com/
I only heard the first half, but I agree with what he said. I think it would also interest LearnMe as it is relevant to his cement theory.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:18 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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I only heard the first half, but I agree with what he said. I think it would also interest LearnMe as it is relevant to his cement theory.
Did you listen to that whole thing? I would be interested in your take of it. I listened to it twice and had trouble making sense of it. I listen to podcasts while I work so I could have just been distracted. I did find it to be a little unnerving.
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