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If this alleged "god" is so full of love, why did he create a world so full of misery, torment, suffering, horrible death and diseases, for all, man and best, to live, suffer and die in?
If you are intellectually honest, you will realize that this is one of those huge differences between dogma and reality that the leaves the theory of a god so wanting. so impossible, so illegitimate.
And please don't try to wipe away this intellectual disconnect with the theory of free-will as that is also an alleged product of the alleged deity. The creator is supposed to have created it, flawed that it is, and inflicted it upon Adam and Eve and then had the temerity of blaming not only the victims, but also all ALL that followed, man and animal, for its consequence, for his (god's) failings.
If that is an example of agape love, I'll take some agape hate instead. It couldn't be any worse.
Saltily yours
The Briny One
I believe the reason we exist is to produce the following states of mind within our consciousness as consistently as possible:
The Holy Spirit IS the True Nature of God revealed, described, and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus. He IS agape love, kindness, mercy, compassion, gentleness, unconditional acceptance, empathy, sympathy, tolerance, long-suffering, decency, friendliness, peacefulness, joyfulness, understanding, care, concern, solicitude, solicitousness, sensitivity, tender-heartedness, soft-heartedness, warm-heartedness, warmth, love, brotherly love, tenderness, gentleness, mercifulness, leniency, lenience, consideration, kindness, humanity, humaneness, kind-heartedness, charity, benevolence, and He is non-judgmental.
How would we ever learn to evoke those states of mind in an environment devoid of the circumstances, situations, and rival states of mind rife with their opposites? That is why I believe we are charged to overcome and endure to the end in the desired states of mind as Jesus did.
I believe the reason we exist is to produce the following states of mind within our consciousness as consistently as possible:
The Holy Spirit IS the True Nature of God revealed, described, and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus. He IS agape love, kindness, mercy, compassion, gentleness, unconditional acceptance, empathy, sympathy, tolerance, long-suffering, decency, friendliness, peacefulness, joyfulness, understanding, care, concern, solicitude, solicitousness, sensitivity, tender-heartedness, soft-heartedness, warm-heartedness, warmth, love, brotherly love, tenderness, gentleness, mercifulness, leniency, lenience, consideration, kindness, humanity, humaneness, kind-heartedness, charity, benevolence, and He is non-judgmental.
How would we ever learn to evoke those states of mind in an environment devoid of the circumstances, situations, and rival states of mind rife with their opposites? That is why I believe we are charged to overcome and endure to the end in the desired states of mind as Jesus did.
Yes, you BELIEVE. But you don't "KNOW", because neither you nor anyone else CAN know, because it is all false, irredeemable, falacious make-believe/non-sense.
I see very little kindness in nature, Devour and be devoured leading the way in the torment and misery department. Infections and non-infectious diseases follow in the former's wake.
There was a ship that was hijacked by terrorists. After a while the hostages began to become understanding and receptive to their captors. That phenomenon came to be known as the Stockholm Syndrome. Your belief system bears considerable resemblance thereto.
It (belief in a deity) is, to my calculations, one of the purest forms of insanity found in the human condition. The macro version of the Stockholm Syndrome
Yes, you BELIEVE. But you don't "KNOW", because neither you nor anyone else CAN know, because it is all false, irredeemable, falacious make-believe/non-sense.
I see very little kindness in nature, Devour, and be devoured leading the way in the torment and misery department. Infections and non-infectious diseases follow in the former's wake.
There was a ship that was hijacked by terrorists. After a while, the hostages began to become understanding and receptive to their captors. That phenomenon came to be known as the Stockholm Syndrome. Your belief system bears considerable resemblance thereto.
It (belief in a deity) is, to my calculations, one of the purest forms of insanity found in the human condition. The macro version of the Stockholm Syndrome
Briny
Absent my encounter, I would be echoing your view, Salty. The biggest intellectual hurdle I had to face in light of my encounter was to reconcile the "red in tooth and claw" aspect of our Reality with the Oneness. That is the best I could do. Sorry, you consider it insanity. I suppose I would too, absent my encounter.
Absent my encounter, I would be echoing your view, Salty. The biggest intellectual hurdle I had to face in light of my encounter was to reconcile the "red in tooth and claw" aspect of our Reality with the Oneness. That is the best I could do. Sorry, you consider it insanity. I suppose I would too, absent my encounter.
There is a saying in the legal community that says something like "exceptional cases make bad law". Your experience more-than-qualifies under that concept. I would discard it has non-normative, non-typical. Out of deference to you, I will stop short of calling it non-sense, in part because i believe something happened, something that you experienced, which to you is very real, but in reality was synthetic, not authentic.
There is a saying in the legal community that says something like "exceptional cases make bad law". Your experience more-than-qualifies under that concept. I would discard it as non-normative, non-typical. Out of deference to you, I will stop short of calling it non-sense, in part because I believe something happened, something that you experienced, which to you is very real, but in reality was synthetic, not authentic.
All I can say to that is, it is the most authentic thing I have ever encountered in my life! I just have to disagree that it was synthetic
All I can say to that is, it is the most authentic thing I have ever encountered in my life! I just have to disagree that it was synthetic
By synthetic I mean that it was generated wholly and solely within your mind. Entirely internal with no existence beyond your mind.
You may wish to consult with a professional. They probably will tell you that what you experienced is, in general, a phenomenon that is well known and well understood.
How about we flip that notion as see how it stands up. Just because some people deny everything, in their own mind, does it mean there is nothing beyond their own mind?
How about we flip that notion as see how it stands up. Just because some people deny everything, in their own mind, does it mean there is nothing beyond their own mind?
How about we flip that notion as see how it stands up. Just because some people deny everything, in their own mind, does it mean there is nothing beyond their own mind?
Clever question, but it isn't going to work. NOBODY denies EVERYTHING.
For you convenient reference, I deny that which is:
Extraordinarily preposterous (like an all-powerful deity that created the Universe, or a Jolly fat-man in a red suit with a magic sleigh and reindeer and a workshop, all on the North Pole)
Clever question, but it isn't going to work. NOBODY denies EVERYTHING.
For you convenient reference, I deny that which is:
Extraordinarily preposterous (like an all-powerful deity that created the Universe, or a Jolly fat-man in a red suit with a magic sleigh and reindeer and a workshop, all on the North Pole)
.and.
Un-evidenced.
Your avoidance isn't clever.
Fighting a deity is like playing the 8th girls football team salty. If that gets you on, then by all means go ahead. But lets not pretend it its anything but light weight. I mean its tough, fighting something that is not not there.
The question is what is the best descriptors of reality we have. Hiding behind you don't have to say anything, but are always willing to tell others they are wrong, is what exactly?
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