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Old 01-11-2023, 05:12 PM
 
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Do you think that christian fundamentalists also feel they are in "the mind of christ"?

Who knows what they feel.

What is "the mind of Christ"? You want to talk about this? You are a Buddhist, you say. We can inquire into this from the Noble Eight-fold Path, if you like.
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:17 PM
 
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What does this mean? So if Ancient Chinese thought is inaccessible in the English language, is it accessible in an English Brain via thought

English brain. What is that?

Language facilitates thinking. Do you realize that you can only think through language? If you have not been taught any language, you cannot think. It's not possible. The voice going on in your head is in English, if that is what you use in daily life.


A dog doesn't sit around all day thinking about its existence. It just can't.
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:23 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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You are still quoting the Bible, Michael.
So did you, or rather, you referred to the Bible when you referenced the 6th commandment.

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The "mind of Christ". What is that?
Thinking the way that Jesus thinks. Where do we find what Jesus thought? That's right, we find what Jesus thought, and taught, in the Bible.

Did Jesus think that it was the command of God that those who speak evil of father and mother were to be put to death, or did he not think that? He said it was in Mark 7:10. So are you going to deny that Jesus thought that?

What about Jesus' statement that the time was coming when he would tell certain people to depart from him because he never knew them - Matthew 7:23. Do you deny that that was part of the mind of Christ, a part of his thinking?
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:34 PM
 
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Do you think that christian fundamentalists also feel they are in "the mind of christ"?
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Mind of Christ? Jesus - ''He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death.'' - Mark 7:10. According to Jesus that was the command of God.

By the way, I am not a fundamentalist.
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You are still quoting the Bible, Michael.

The "mind of Christ". What is that?
The above answers Phet's question and reveals what is wrong with fundamentalist thought about the "mind of Christ." They THINK the Bible is the "mind of Christ." It is NOT. He unambiguously revealed the True Nature of His mind on the Cross. Can you imagine the mind that had so much agape love and forgiveness during His horrendous and brutal scourging and crucifixion actually saying: ''He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death." ????
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:43 PM
 
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You are still quoting the Bible, Michael.

The "mind of Christ". What is that?
Why are you asking him what "the mind of christ" is, when you said the following just a few posts ago:

"You may not have followed my conversations with others relating to my spiritual convictions. I am in the "mind of Christ" and not into Christian fundamentalism."
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:44 PM
 
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Who knows what they feel.

What is "the mind of Christ"? You want to talk about this? You are a Buddhist, you say. We can inquire into this from the Noble Eight-fold Path, if you like.
Leave Buddhism out of this. Just answer the question.
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The above answers Phet's question and reveals what is wrong with fundamentalist thought about the "mind of Christ." They THINK the Bible is the "mind of Christ." It is NOT. He unambiguously revealed the True Nature of His mind on the Cross. Can you imagine the mind that had so much agape love and forgiveness during His horrendous and brutal scourging and crucifixion actually saying: ''He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death." ????
No, that does not answer my question...which was: "Do you think that christian fundamentalists also feel they are in "the mind of christ"?"
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Old 01-11-2023, 05:58 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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The above answers Phet's question and reveals what is wrong with fundamentalist thought about the "mind of Christ." They THINK the Bible is the "mind of Christ." It is NOT. He unambiguously revealed the True Nature of His mind on the Cross. Can you imagine the mind that had so much agape love and forgiveness during His horrendous and brutal scourging and crucifixion actually saying: ''He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death." ????
Where was what Jesus said when he was on the cross recorded? It was recorded in the Bible.

Where was Jesus' statement that it was the command of God that 'he who speaks evil of father and mother be put to death recorded? It was recorded in the Bible.

That doesn't mean that the Bible itself is the mind of Christ. It means that what Jesus thought and said, and taught is recorded in the Bible.

You can't imagine Jesus saying that it was the command of God that those who speak evil of father and mother were to be put to death (one of the commands of the Mosaic law [which Christianity is not under]) because you have a one dimensional view of Jesus and so you must cherry pick what you believe Jesus said according to the Bible and what he didn't actually say, meaning that you must think that someone else put those words into the mouth of Jesus.

And you must by now know that I am not a fundamentalist.
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Old 01-11-2023, 06:03 PM
 
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The above answers Phet's question and reveals what is wrong with fundamentalist thought about the "mind of Christ." They THINK the Bible is the "mind of Christ." It is NOT. He unambiguously revealed the True Nature of His mind on the Cross. Can you imagine the mind that had so much agape love and forgiveness during His horrendous and brutal scourging and crucifixion actually saying: ''He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death." ????

Correct. The mind is fundamentalistic. It moves in a mechanical robotic manner in any direction and situation. The use of reason is the cause. 1+1 = 2. Tik tok tik tok like a clock. It's so pedantic.


Spirituality is about flying free from any mechanical thought on the wings of intelligence. All the atheist can use is the intellect to find his way in a mechanistic world created by reason. I would die of boredom in this world if I couldn't fly.
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Old 01-11-2023, 06:07 PM
 
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Correct. The mind is fundamentalistic. It moves in a mechanical robotic manner in any direction and situation. The use of reason is the cause. 1+1 = 2. Tik tok tik tok like a clock. It's so pedantic.


Spirituality is about flying free from any mechanical thought on the wings of intelligence. All the atheist can use is the intellect to find his way in a mechanistic world created by reason. I would die of boredom in this world if I couldn't fly.
So you have no use for thinking and no use for intelligence. That explains a lot.
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