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How are legal definitions of marriage a "law against LGBT"?
The religious are not arguing about the LEGAL definition of marriage because that is a secular issue and it has been resolved. The religious are arguing about the sacrament of Matrimony which IS the province of religious institutions.
The religious are not arguing about the LEGAL definition of marriage because that is a secular issue and it has been resolved. The religious are arguing about the sacrament of Matrimony which IS the province of religious institutions.
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
"Resolved"? I'd still argue about it, and I don't consider it even remotely "resolved".
Civil law must reflect reality and conform to nature or else it's worthless. An unjust law is no law at all.
It has been resolved for secular purposes which are the rights and privileges granted by society to those couples who are married. Civil law addresses those rights and privileges it grants, period! Your conflation of the sacrament of Matrimony issued by religious authority is a separate issue entirely.
Tradition has automatically awarded secular privileges and status to those couples who have received the religious sacrament of Matrimony but that gives the religious authority no say in the awarding of those privileges to other couples.
Seems like religion is always a tool to oppress others. Look at the Islamic terror group the taliban. The taliban men impose restrictions on woman according to sharia not allowing woman to work, get an education or leave the home while these taliban men are exempt from the sharia law they impose on others. That's how I know Islam is a false religion right there. And Christians in this country for the most part all want to <<cut>> and some want to make it law allowing discrimination against LGBT people. It's easy to push religious oppression on others when you are not affected by it. Seems like these religious people want freedom and rights for themselves but not others. I think all religions are lies.
I disagree with "always."
My religious experience has been one of liberation. Jesus teaches us to love and serve, not oppress.
Quakers have advocated womens' rights for centuries. Abolitionism before it was common. Equality of people for centuries. Pacifism for centuries. Free will and liberty for centuries.
There are plenty of other Christian denominations and different religions that can say the same thing.
How can you say that religion is always oppressive?
My religious experience has been one of liberation. Jesus teaches us to love and serve, not oppress.
Quakers have advocated womens' rights for centuries. Abolitionism before it was common. Equality of people for centuries. Pacifism for centuries. Free will and liberty for centuries.
There are plenty of other Christian denominations and different religions that can say the same thing.
How can you say that religion is always oppressive?
I agree with you. It is sometimes used to oppress, and other times to liberate.
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