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Old 03-12-2021, 09:37 AM
 
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Most of us understand progressive activism to mean the goal to protect human rights and to creat a more equal and compassionate society.
Atheist activists seem to have problem understanding that. An insightful article.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/athei...lems_b_1164399
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. But some of the most vocal atheist activists understand religious criticism differently. Take, for example, this sampling of comments from prominent atheists about Islam and Muslims:

American Atheists No God Blog: “One thing we need to keep in mind is that Muslims are particularly barbaric and primitive, even more so than their competitive mythologies.”

PZ Myers: “Come on, Islam... It’s bad enough to be the religion of hate, but to be the religion of cowardice ought to leave you feeling ashamed.”

JT Eberhard: “Islam is a ****ty religion (more ****ty than most, and try me if you don’t think we can defend that statement) and Muhammad was a pedophile, which has resulted in several Muslims continuing the practice.”

Al Stefanelli: “[Islam] is a virus of the mind, a form of psychosis and when interpreted literally it produces a believer that can be very dangerous. When you add ideologies that support violence and the call for world domination, the only logical conclusion is a physical manifestation of unconditional obedience to a twisted, barbaric philosophy that we know as terrorism.”

None of these are reasonable critiques of any specific Islamic beliefs. They are broad generalizations and they do nothing to further the discourse on ethics — atheistic or Islamic. Criticizing dogmatic principles and practices is essentially important in the effort to promote social progress — be it in the fight for LGBTQ equality, in combating sexism, or in protecting the health and safety of children — but these statements are just hateful (not to mention wrong).
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Old 03-12-2021, 09:40 AM
 
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Sounds very similar to some of their religious counterparts.
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Old 03-12-2021, 09:41 AM
 
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Sounds very similar to some of their religious counterparts.
Good observation. Well, not so surprising is it?
Eta: except that they are not called activists, just bigots.

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Old 03-12-2021, 09:47 AM
 
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So no different to other groups, but your insecurity leads you to only attack atheism.

And you missed a part from your quote of what is simply an opinion piece - "None of these are reasonable critiques of any specific Islamic beliefs. They are broad generalizations and they do nothing to further the discourse on ethics — atheistic or Islamic.".

Your post is also a broad generalization (as well as an ad hominem).

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Old 03-12-2021, 10:29 AM
 
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I don't agree with what they are saying or how they are saying it. Im an atheist.

Also, I disagree with you that's the problem of atheist activists. Its a problem within not a problem with.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:33 AM
 
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I don't agree with what they are saying or how they are saying it. Im an atheist.

Also, I disagree with you that's the problem of atheist activists. Its a problem within not a problem with.
The part of the article quoted in their post does say "some", as it should.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:35 AM
 
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The part of the article quoted in their post does say "some", as it should.
Some of the most vocal atheists. The author is an atheist as well, just not in the some.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:50 AM
 
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Good observation. Well, not so surprising is it?
Eta: except that they are not called activists, just bigots.
How does calling people bigots solve the problem? Aren't you doing the same things the article is talking about not being effective.
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Old 03-12-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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How does calling people bigots solve the problem? Aren't you doing the same things the article is talking about not being effective.
Bigot is one who has prejudiced views about a group of people he holds as truth. It is accurate. Bigotry is a problem the bigot has to solve. We are not born bigots. It is learned.
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Old 03-12-2021, 11:00 AM
 
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Bigot is one who has prejudiced views about a group of people he holds as truth. It is accurate. Bigotry is a problem the bigot has to solve. We are not born bigots. It is learned.
When I read your posts about atheists, it seems to me you have learned it well.
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