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I didn't know too much science isn't allowed here. Bummer. I think the link between science and spirituality is the crux of the whole thing, and eminently worth discussing. Indeed: in need of discussion. Very "cutting edge".
Ok cool. I will try. It's not going to be today. Maybe a few days, or a week. I need some time away from the forum anyway.
Thanks for your perspective. The matter gets into the whole issue of "what is consciousness", and "is it confined to the body". Scientists have posited, that Consciousness pervades the Universe. They say the same thing bout electricity: the Universe is electric. That's a very interesting (potential) association: a mere coincidence that both Consciousness and electricity are all-pervasive? What happens to our consciousness when we die? If consciousness is a form of energy (i.e. neither created nor destroyed), does it blend back into the background Consciousness of the Universe? What's going on with that?
If one believes , as some of us do, that there is ONLY Consciousness and it pervades everything, there is nothing that it does not pervade, then electricity is within Consciousness, not separate, as our our own individual mind-conciousneses are as well as it is of the same substance. Consciousness itself has no parts.
Bolded : yes exactly. Except it does not blend into anything, it was never separate.
I didn't know too much science isn't allowed here. Bummer. I think the link between science and spirituality is the crux of the whole thing, and eminently worth discussing. Indeed: in need of discussion. Very "cutting edge".
As far as I know science is allowed as long as it pertains to theology. I don't think debating the legitimacy of accepted science is allowed .
If one believes , as some of us do, that there is ONLY Consciousness and it pervades everything, there is nothing that it does not pervade, then electricity is within Consciousness, not separate, as our our own individual mind-conciousneses are as well as it is of the same substance. Consciousness itself has no parts.
Bolded : yes exactly. Except it does not blend into anything, it was never separate.
Thank you! I was heading in that direction with my post, but stopped short. Bless you! ♥
Thanks for your perspective. The matter gets into the whole issue of "what is consciousness", and "is it confined to the body". Scientists have posited, that Consciousness pervades the Universe. They say the same thing bout electricity: the Universe is electric. That's a very interesting (potential) association: a mere coincidence that both Consciousness and electricity are all-pervasive?
What happens to our consciousness when we die? If consciousness is a form of energy (i.e. neither created nor destroyed), does it blend back into the background Consciousness of the Universe? What's going on with that?
Consciousness is a field phenomenon as is electromagnetic radiation. The difference is that EM radiation remains differentiated whereas our individual consciousness is an undifferentiated single quantum entity (bubble of BEC within the quantum foam). The field within which they BOTH exist and manifest is itself a cosmic consciousness or what we refer to as the spacetime field (or quantum foam) that comprises 95+% of our observable universe.
What we consider our material reality is less than 5% of our observable and measurable universe. The 95+% exists at the high energy level of quanta making it invisible to us. It is the spiritual level of existence and cannot be perceived from our low energy macro level of molecular existence. We exist like bystanders in a universe that exists at such high energy levels that can only be detected indirectly at most as blurs of energy.
I analogize our molecular existence using speed. Our frequency of vibration can be considered the "speed" at which we exist. Our macro molecular existence is analogous to being on the side of a road as supersonic cars flash past us. We cannot see them as cars unless we are in a car at the same "speed" on the road. Our molecular frequency limits us from observing the 95+% spiritual realm while our consciousness is tethered to the 5% physical level by our sensory system at its slow molecular "speed."
Thank you! Such an enthusiastic affirmation was unexpected! Glad that it answered some question for you.
Where can I read more about that, explained in something close to layman's terms?
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD;
Consciousness is a field phenomenon as is electromagnetic radiation. The difference is that EM radiation remains differentiated whereas our individual consciousness is an undifferentiated single quantum entity (bubble of BEC within the quantum foam). The field within which they BOTH exist and manifest is itself a cosmic consciousness or what we refer to as the spacetime field (or quantum foam) that comprises 95+% of our observable universe.
What we consider our material reality is less than 5% of our observable and measurable universe. The 95+% exists at the high energy level of quanta making it invisible to us. It is the spiritual level of existence and cannot be perceived from our low energy macro level of molecular existence. We exist like bystanders in a universe that exists at such high energy levels that can only be detected indirectly at most as blurs of energy.
I analogize our molecular existence using speed. Our frequency of vibration can be considered the "speed" at which we exist. Our macro molecular existence is analogous to being on the side of a road as supersonic cars flash past us. We cannot see them as cars unless we are in a car at the same "speed" on the road. Our molecular frequency limits us from observing the 95+% spiritual realm while our consciousness is tethered to the 5% physical level by our sensory system at its slow molecular "speed."
See? Did I say we need a thread on the interface between science and spirituality? Yes, I did. VOILA! Two examples among several recent ones on the thread. Thank you guys for your contributions. Keep 'em coming.
I'm more inclined to classify god(s) as a property or product of the universe, not the other way around, nor do I conflate them as synonymous. I'm not suggesting I believe in the existence of a god, only that I accept some people believe there is at least one. I see god, somewhat like Neo as described by the Architect in the movie the Matrix; god 'is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the' development of the human mind. When questions can not be immediately answered, an answer is still needed by the human mind, and god(s) do a spectacular job of filling that role, because they can be whatever the individual needs and can be redefined dynamically as required. A person's god always fits them perfectly, but not because god designed the person, but because the person defined the god. The reason god(s) is so varied isn't because god is THE SINGLE TRUTH, but rather because everyone is looking for THEIR TRUTH, Ala many gods.
Where can I read more about that, explained in something close to layman's terms?
See? Did I say we need a thread on the interface between science and spirituality? Yes, I did. VOILA! Two examples among several recent ones on the thread. Thank you guys for your contributions. Keep 'em coming.
You can learn more about what I said, the foundation for it, in Advaita, a school of philosophy in Hinduism. What i find that inspires awe in me is how Science is discovering the same things that the ancients texts state. Such as about the Oneness and the mind; about illusions and delusions.
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