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The day I asked God to forgive my sin and asked Jesus into my heart I realized God's omnipresent.
God is not distant He is ever present in all things and over all things. I say this from personal experience.
Jesus is the physical representation God in the flesh, so that people 1. might know him personally in human reference. and 2. To establish a conduit for men receiving the Holy Spirit of God in their lives.
God is not going to associate with people that don't respect Him, neither would you.
There are standards you have for those you associate, so does He. Liars do not fit in His standards. Satan was kicked out of Heaven for his lies and rebellion. Jesus said "Satan is a liar and the father of it."
God values free will that much. If you don't respect God for that, you condemn your self.
God knows the potential future for all things, both because of that fact, nothing is hidden from Him. There is no private thought.
God does reveal Himself to people honestly desperate to Know Him. Honestly desperate to Know Him.
Some folk flood them selves with academics, but this is side stepping what He has provided, cheating them self out of the relationship He intended for man.
Though there are loads of religions, their academics are a distraction, like telling you to take pill that will make you strong in place of actual exorcise. If you go to establish a relationship with another person, How do you go about it, especially if there are some serious differences?
Let's get some perspective.
God is Creator and you are the created.
If you have a problem with this, nothing further can occur.
Free Will is free from any compunction, constraints, or coercion. What God knows or doesn't know places no compunction, constraints, or coercion on our choices if WE don't know what it is. We are still free to choose. God's transcendent knowledge places no constraint on the immanent choices available to us.
If our choices were outside of those placed before us by god, that might be true.
We can posit the same thing about an omniscient god . All I am showing is that one can have foreknowledge without affecting the choices of the people . My example shows this. Can you explain deeper why a god having foreknowledge automatically equates that the individual loses the ability to make his own decision? Why would god being able to know without affecting the choice be any different than a time traveler ? Simply saying it is different with God doesn’t explain why this difference would occur . An omniscient god can essentially do the same thing as the time traveler , have the knowledge of what choice was made without affecting that choice .
But they don't have free will if the only choices were created by god in the first place.
Really? Throwing a die and getting a 6 is not random?
No more than throwing a strike vs. a gutter ball. It may be harder to control and therefore predict a 6 but causality is still at play. Random is just a made up definition to encompass that which is beyond the ability of humans to accurately predict.
God knowing the future is consequent. But as God knows the future today it is also an antecedent. God knew the future before it happened, hence it is antecedent as well.
Nonsense. Talk about unnecessarily confusing yourself with what occurs within TIME and what exists outside of TIME - God's transcendent knowledge. The very act of assuming God's knowledge exists at some point in TIME so as to be an antecedent is irrational. It has no logical place in a syllogism WITHIN time.
1) have we not answered these gotcha questions before?
2) Why do you ask us but never the same question about YOUR beliefs? Is it plausible that matter came into existence by your god just talking? Has that ever been observed, and could it be proven that its generation was indeed created by your god just talking?
Nonsense. Talk about unnecessarily confusing yourself with what occurs within TIME and what exists outside of TIME - God's transcendent knowledge. The very act of assuming God's knowledge exists at some point in TIME so as to be an antecedent is irrational. It has no logical place in a syllogism WITHIN time.
Then God's knowledge can't be consequent either as you first claimed. Both consequent and antecedent require time. It is your posts that are inconsistent and you who is confused.
Then God's knowledge can't be consequent either as you first claimed. Both consequent and antecedent require time. It is your posts that are inconsistent and you who is confused.
No. I was pointing out the irrationality of Arizona's syllogism inappropriately applying God's transcendent knowledge to a syllogism within TIME. It has no place as the antecedent or the consequent but applied as he did it was affirming the future (consequent).
* A nod though to Katz and Mormons in general. Katz is classy, and Mormons are generally very nice and sincere believers in their faith. It is strange that such a weird faith produces the most sincere Christians
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