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Id like to correct somewhat your assertion. I accept that biogenesis is a possible and maybe the most likely way but believe is nit the best term IMHO.
I'm curious why you hyphenate abiogensis all the time. I'm not against it, just wondering. Is it for ease of pronunciation or to emphasize the meaning? Something else?
Perhaps it is a language issue after all. You seem to confuse the evidence we have about HOW things operate with your preferred assumption about WHY they operate. You have NO evidence about WHY they operate.
A valid point, although I suspect it is just semantics. How something operates can be thought of us all the "why" that exists on the matter. The question, "why is the sky blue" is apt to elicit a description of how it is blue, since there is no "why" involved. It's not blue because god wanted it blue, it is blue because of the reflection / refraction characteristics of light in a particle-laden gas at certain times of the day.
04-05-2022, 11:54 AM
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I'm curious why you hyphenate abiogensis all the time. I'm not against it, just wondering. Is it for ease of pronunciation or to emphasize the meaning? Something else?
Just to emphasize between each part. I think since theists have to believe in it they can use something like Theistic Abiognesis just like Theistic Evolution. Belief in god/s does not necessarily eliminate either one of those.
What other term would you use instead of abiogenesis?
Just to emphasize between each part. I think since theists have to believe in it they can use something like Theist Abiognesis just like Theistic Evolution. Belief in god/s does not necessarily eliminate either one of those.
What other term would you use instead of abiogenesis.
Let's see..."inconsequential", "nugatory", "piddling", etc.
Things occured by and through God the way they have.
It is what it is and was what it was.
If we never know specifically & in detail it won't matter a bit...except to those awash in headtrips & hubris, looking to feel superior to others & insult them.
Reverence to God...that all things come by and through!!
Yes, you play with it to avoid supporting your position.
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You seem to confuse the evidence we have about HOW things operate with your preferred assumption about WHY they operate.
And there is the 'blame Harry and pretend it is his misunderstanding instead of providing evidence for your claim' game.
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You have NO evidence about WHY they operate.
If absolute non-existence is not possible, then existence is the only alternative. And everything that exists has properties and behaviors. That is the WHY, because they must exist.
And the evidence we have about HOW they operate is that they do not need a conscious entity. For over 2000 years, it has always been naturalism. It is you who presumes it does require an intelligent entity, so ONCE AGAIN it is you who needs to provide that extra evidence, AND explain how it works.
04-05-2022, 12:34 PM
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Let's see..."inconsequential", "nugatory", "piddling", etc.
Things occured by and through God the way they have.
It is what it is and was what it was.
If we never know specifically & in detail it won't matter a bit...except to those awash in headtrips & hubris, looking to feel superior to others & insult them.
Reverence to God...that all things come by and through!!
I'm glad you believe that a-bio-genesis is true. Thanks for playing!
I'm glad you believe that a-bio-genesis is true. Thanks for playing!
It matters to you...refer to my last post as to why.
I never said I believed it is true...it may be, or maybe not.
Life may have always existed. Not that it matters...well, except to those I noted.
The only thing being "played"...is you playing yourself.
You need to get hip to that.
04-05-2022, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GldnRule
It matters to you...refer to my last post as to why.
I never said I believed it is true...it may be, or maybe not.
Life may have always existed. Not that it matters...well, except to those I noted.
The only thing being "played"...is you playing yourself.
You need to get hip to that.
You don't have to say it. Biological life either is eternal or it is not. If not, then the only option is a-bio-genesis.
You don't have to say it. Biological life either is eternal or it is not. If not, then the only option is a-bio-genesis.
"Life" may not be just "biological"...things may "live" in some other way or state.
Everything is "energy" anyway...and what we call "life" is just a form of it...as everything is.
But we are probably not aware of the other forms of energy that we would consider to be "alive".
You are too hung up on your narrow sphere of infinitesimal knowledge about such things...that will never be anything but.
Everything, in totality, is just One Thing.
Which is why it doesn't matter. Except to those I noted.
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