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Old 07-06-2022, 07:14 AM
 
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Simple. Make 2 hash marks six times. Count the hash marks. Are there 12? Now make 3 hash marks six times. Count the hash marks. Are there 18? Repeat as many times as you like, anyplace you like, using any language you like. Ask a friend or your cousin Hector to do it too. Everyone in the world will always get the same answer.

Now, what can you say about divinity that is always true, in any place or language, and which everyone in the world can get the same answer?
By substituting hashmarks for 6 you have not said anything different, you just used a symbol to represent it. 6 has an existence.
You have also misunderstood the substance of the argument. Repeating the process with 6 or symbols yields the same results. That does not prove anything, just that that if you repeat the process you will get the same results.
The question is what is that quality, the essence, of 6 that transforms another number in relation to it? Does 6 have a reality? Or is it in your mind?
If you add water to salt you have a new product that is neither. What is the essence of salt that turns water to saline? Ypu can explain HOW it turns water to saline, but not why.
THAT is devinity. The inherent knowledge within is Divinity. Divinity is All-Knowledge.
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Old 07-06-2022, 07:22 AM
 
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As one friend put it - either death is oblivion, or our consciousness goes on. And if it does go on, where do you go?
And if your individual consciousness was created, who created it?
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Old 07-06-2022, 07:22 AM
 
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those are fantastic explanations cb
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Old 07-06-2022, 07:23 AM
 
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As one friend put it - either death is oblivion, or our consciousness goes on. And if it does go on, where do you go? And if your individual consciousness was created, who created it?
it wasn't created. it always was and always will be.
no beginning no end.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:03 AM
 
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The number 6 makes ‘sense’ how? when 2,3, 4 are multiplied by 6, for instance, why are they transformed? what is it about 6 that does that? that you can repeat it is not proof. it just means you can repeat it.
And that mathematics works, the point you are evading.

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numbers are abstract yet they exist. what is their essence? what is the essence of number 6?
It is a mental representation of a number of things or events. But well done for the use of the word 'essence', part of the mystical tool kit.

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divinity exists. there is no proof. it’s essence is to exist. whether you believe it or not, it exists.
Or does not exist, whether you believe it or not.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:05 AM
 
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If you add water to salt you have a new product that is neither. What is the essence of salt that turns water to saline? Ypu can explain HOW it turns water to saline, but not why.
THAT is devinity. The inherent knowledge within is Divinity. Divinity is All-Knowledge.
Is there a why? Is the how not also the why?

The answer is not 'fish'.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:18 AM
 
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Is there a why? Is the how not also the why?
The answer is not 'fish'.
regarding bold above,
No. Of course not.
for anything.


maybe learn the difference between "how" and "why"
for anything.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:30 AM
 
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As one friend put it - either death is oblivion, or our consciousness goes on. And if it does go on, where do you go?
And if your individual consciousness was created, who created it?
You are IT, you are the consciousness, not the body, brain, organs that died.
Consciousness is all that exists, everything that exists is Consciousness, there is nothing else.
If the computer dies, where does the software go? It goes nowhere, it is just not limited by the PC. As analogies go this too has its limitations.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:32 AM
 
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those are fantastic explanations cb
I am reading this fantastic book by Paolo Zellini, The Mathematics of the Gods, and the Algorithms of Men.
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Old 07-06-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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And that mathematics works, the point you are evading.



It is a mental representation of a number of things or events. But well done for the use of the word 'essence', part of the mystical tool kit.



Or does not exist, whether you believe it or not.
How can evade a point that i just made?
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