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Old 05-17-2022, 09:50 AM
 
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Unfortunately. The illusions of many imposed on the rest. It's time it stopped. Religion belongs in a person's own head, their place of worship, and no place else.
This is like the blind person telling all the sighted that their claims of perceiving things by way of "seeing", is "the illusions of many".
They base this on the fact that they cannot "see" anything...and refuse to believe the vast majority that have normal visual abilities.
And, furthermore, they declare that the only way they will not determine the claims of sight to be "the illusions of many", is if the sighted are able to somehow rectify their blindness, and make them able to see as well.
And if they can't...their discussions of "seeing things" needs to "be kept in their own head, and no place else".
Most unfortunate.
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Old 05-17-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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This is like the blind person telling all the sighted that their claims of perceiving things by way of "seeing", is "the illusions of many".
They base this on the fact that they cannot "see" anything...and refuse to believe the vast majority that have normal visual abilities.
And, furthermore, they declare that the only way they will not determine the claims of sight to be "the illusions of many", is if the sighted are able to somehow rectify their blindness, and make them able to see as well.
And if they can't...their discussions of "seeing things" needs to "be kept in their own head, and no place else".
Most unfortunate.
The very many different religious beliefs refutes your position (but supports atheism).

Also, the topic is ...
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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The very many different religious beliefs refutes your position (but supports atheism).

Also, the topic is ...
I'm sorry that you can't "see" Harry.
Most unfortunate...I will pray for you.
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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When I was younger I used to resent religion with a passion, cause I thought it was kinda opressive, coercive, overly dogmatic, pretentious and just too conformist

Now that I am getting older and having recently experienced a recent serious existential crisis(though to be fair, it had to moreso with the feeling of having felt like I overcame a lot of adversity in the name of little to nothing in return, a very personal feeling)


It was at this moment I realized that importance of religion and the sense of purpose, structure, enlightenment and spiritual guidance it kinda provides


You can't just live a life with a void of nothingness, I learned this the hard way


That's where the religious instinct kinda comes from, the urge to look up to a higher sense of order or one's self

Being religously curious as of late, I decided to get at it and research after-death experiences


I can confirm that the following are real

Heaven, Abyss? Atlantis and claims of reincarnation

I believe death is a gamble, a probability game. Just like how you can't decide your birth circumstances, I don't think we can choose our birth destiny

So, with religion declining big time, should we expect to see more existential dreads in our upcoming generations of youth? Why or why not? The reason being, is how are kids going to cultivate themselves into finding deeper meaning out of anything???
This thread is based upon a flawed premise.
Religion is growing in this world...not declining.
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:46 AM
 
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Wouldn't that hold for Atheism as well?
Atheism holds that religion has no place in government. Atheism is not a religion, it is the antithesis of religion.
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm sorry that you can't "see" Harry.
Most unfortunate...I will pray for you.
and I will think for you.
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Old 05-17-2022, 10:50 AM
 
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I'm sorry that you can't "see" Harry.
Most unfortunate...I will pray for you.


Now what is the topic again?
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:09 AM
 
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Atheism holds that religion has no place in government. Atheism is not a religion, it is the antithesis of religion.
There are some Governments that are even Theocracies. Which is, subjectively, no better or worse a basis for governance than any other.
The U S. Government has been saturated with Religion since Day #1, and still is...it is also no better or worse than any other.
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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Now what is the topic again?
The topic is the flawed idea that Religion is declining.
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Old 05-17-2022, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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There are some Governments that are even Theocracies. Which is, subjectively, no better or worse a basis for governance than any other.
The U S. Government has been saturated with Religion since Day #1, and still is...it is also no better or worse than any other.
Is separation of church and state not a thing?
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