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Old 05-17-2022, 12:06 PM
 
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Actually I am the same person as when I believed in religion, god, etc.
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Actually I am the same person as when I believed in religion, god, etc.
Good for you, hope you can continue living a meaningful, fulfilling and enlightening life
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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Is separation of church and state not a thing?
It is a thing(y)...in words in a letter, and theory...but not in how it actually has always been.
The original inhabitants of the U.S were Spiritual, but not Religious...in no time, it was all heavily Abrahamic Religious.
Because the Government officials pushed it harder than GEICO pushes it's insurance...even onto the Native People (well, the ones they hadn't killed) as well.
So...no..."Separation of Church and State" is not "a thing", (and never has been)...beyond a diversionary tactic to make The People complacent, while they ran (run) their desired game.
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Southern NC
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I'm sorry that you can't "see" Harry.
Most unfortunate...I will pray for you.
These kind of come backs make it seem like you're using your prayer as a weapon.
This is a common occurrence, which is more unfortunate.
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Old 05-17-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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These kind of come backs make it seem like you're using your prayer as a weapon.
This is a common occurrence, which is more unfortunate.
That you think that is also very unfortunate...because that is not how it is at all.
I will pray for you as well.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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These kind of come backs make it seem like you're using your prayer as a weapon.
This is a common occurrence, which is more unfortunate.
You know what they say...karma is a...
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Old 05-17-2022, 02:22 PM
 
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You know what they say...karma is a...
Yes...I am certain the kind of "bad vibes" that it requires to negatively view prayers towards one's well being....will come back on a person. And that will be a ....
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Old 05-17-2022, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Old 05-17-2022, 03:53 PM
 
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When I was younger I used to resent religion with a passion, cause I thought it was kinda opressive, coercive, overly dogmatic, pretentious and just too conformist

Now that I am getting older and having recently experienced a recent serious existential crisis(though to be fair, it had to moreso with the feeling of having felt like I overcame a lot of adversity in the name of little to nothing in return, a very personal feeling)


It was at this moment I realized that importance of religion and the sense of purpose, structure, enlightenment and spiritual guidance it kinda provides


You can't just live a life with a void of nothingness, I learned this the hard way


That's where the religious instinct kinda comes from, the urge to look up to a higher sense of order or one's self

Being religously curious as of late, I decided to get at it and research after-death experiences


I can confirm that the following are real

Heaven, Abyss? Atlantis and claims of reincarnation

I believe death is a gamble, a probability game. Just like how you can't decide your birth circumstances, I don't think we can choose our birth destiny

So, with religion declining big time, should we expect to see more existential dreads in our upcoming generations of youth? Why or why not? The reason being, is how are kids going to cultivate themselves into finding deeper meaning out of anything???
Well, believing in some thing is more reliable than denying everything.

Maybe we be honest about how to form beliefs and fight bad religious people. I see no reason that we can't believe stuff, talk about that stuff, question other atheist and demand atheist follow the rules of logic too. And stand up to over bearing religion.

Atheism is way stronger than religious looking atheist give it credit for to me.
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Old 05-17-2022, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I'm fine if religion declines, so spirituality can increase. Trimming the fat and waste to get to the real "meat" and nourishment.
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