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The problem is that [Muslim's] acquiescence to the minority fanatics is not the same as other religions. Their religion specifically prohibits the devout among them from using their majority to quell the fanatics among them who claim religious jihad. They have no responsibility to help them but they cannot interfere with them.
I would argue that it is exactly the same as the acquiescence of liberal Christianity to fundamentalist Christianity. The only difference is perhaps that the sheer quantity and dominance of Islamic fundamentalism on a global basis is more complete than is true of Christian fundamentalism. Although I think that gap is rapidly closing at present.
France's No-Go Zones: The Riots Return
by Guy Millière
May 10, 2020 at 10:30 am
Excerpt:
A few months ago, a police officer, Noam Anouar, who infiltrated Islamist circles... stated that no-go zones in France are now foreign enclaves on French territory. "The gangs operating there," he wrote, "have formed a parallel economy based on drug trafficking. They consider themselves at war with France and with Western civilization. They act in cooperation with Islamist organizations, and define acts of predation and rampage as raids against infidels". He noted that reclaiming these areas today would be complicated, costly, and involve calling in the army.
For years, successive French governments have chosen a policy of "willful blindness": they simply behave as if they do not see what is going on. They do not even try to find solutions.
I would argue that it is exactly the same as the acquiescence of liberal Christianity to fundamentalist Christianity. The only difference is perhaps that the sheer quantity and dominance of Islamic fundamentalism on a global basis is more complete than is true of Christian fundamentalism. Although I think that gap is rapidly closing at present.
Do you have any actual scientific data for your theory, or is it your opinion? Is there a reason to compare global domination to US conditions? The OP’s post is quite specific. He is an American and wishes to know what his fellow Americans think of Muslims. Not islam, muslims. Your personal experience with muslims.
France's No-Go Zones: The Riots Return
by Guy Millière
May 10, 2020 at 10:30 am
Excerpt:
A few months ago, a police officer, Noam Anouar, who infiltrated Islamist circles... stated that no-go zones in France are now foreign enclaves on French territory. "The gangs operating there," he wrote, "have formed a parallel economy based on drug trafficking. They consider themselves at war with France and with Western civilization. They act in cooperation with Islamist organizations, and define acts of predation and rampage as raids against infidels". He noted that reclaiming these areas today would be complicated, costly, and involve calling in the army.
For years, successive French governments have chosen a policy of "willful blindness": they simply behave as if they do not see what is going on. They do not even try to find solutions.
The people who will refuse to believe this, will refuse to believe this.
France has a lousy history of colonization, freedom of religion, and its betrayal of Jews during the war. The worst kind of Orientalism came from the French. The US is far superior even with all its faults. We dont need the French to show us the way nor the privately funded Gatestone.
France has a lousy history of colonization, freedom of religion, and its betrayal of Jews during the war. The worst kind of Orientalism came from the French. The US is far superior even with all its faults. We dont need the French to show us the way nor the privately funded Gatestone.
We should stick to the topic, which is what forum members think regarding Muslims. I offered an opinion. That is what the OP asked for. He didn't ask for debate on our opinions.
Unfortunately, several posters challenged the credibility of my opinion, denying the existence of Muslim no go zones in France, saying the stories were fake or false. So I provided a recent article that clearly discusses the fact of Muslim no-go zones in France, as said by a real French police officer in France. The Muslim no go zones are real and they do exist.
I knew you wouldn't like the source. For many here, if it is doesn't come from the US mainstream media, NY Times, WaPo, CNN, NBC... it didn't happen.
I would argue that it is exactly the same as the acquiescence of liberal Christianity to fundamentalist Christianity. The only difference is perhaps that the sheer quantity and dominance of Islamic fundamentalism on a global basis is more complete than is true of Christian fundamentalism. Although I think that gap is rapidly closing at present.
That's what I thought when I read Mystic's comment. I feel bad for apostates from Islam. I'm not an expert on all the terminology but isn't Muslim a detonation of where someone is from or an ethic heritage? I'll run a search after this but welcome and explanation from someone who knows. So to me a Muslim could be a radical believer, a law type, a spirit type, an atheist. I do attribute greater religiously to them as a group but they are still individuals.
According to the internet I had it wrong. Islam is to Muslim as Christianity is to Christian. So I will pull non believers from that heritage and not say they are Muslim. I guess I should have figured that as Cat Stevens is a Muslim.
We should stick to the topic, which is what forum members think regarding Muslims. I offered an opinion. That is what the OP asked for. He didn't ask for debate on our opinions.
Unfortunately, several posters challenged the credibility of my opinion, denying the existence of Muslim no go zones in France, saying the stories were fake or false. So I provided a recent article that clearly discusses the fact of Muslim no-go zones in France, as said by a real French police officer in France. The Muslim no go zones are real and they do exist.
I knew you wouldn't like the source. For many here, if it is doesn't come from the US mainstream media, NY Times, WaPo, CNN, NBC... it didn't happen.
What the French think of Muslims is not what the OP asked.
I think most Muslims are decent people, There are kooks like in any religion. What Muslims have in common with Christians is that each believes their religion is the true religion and the other is going to hell for not believing what they believe.
I would argue that it is exactly the same as the acquiescence of liberal Christianity to fundamentalist Christianity. The only difference is perhaps that the sheer quantity and dominance of Islamic fundamentalism on a global basis is more complete than is true of Christian fundamentalism. Although I think that gap is rapidly closing at present.
Then whatever in your brain provides the comparison standards is dysfunctional. Islamic fanaticism is in its own league!!
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