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OK, but it shows that your assertion that another religion's belief in being "true" inevitably means that that religion views others as "false" is a false claim.
I think it's fair to point out that a significant aspect of the Jewish faith is that God deals differently with Jews than he does with non-Jews.
You yourself, a faithful Jew, have stated in this very thread that Jesus is dead. Any Christian would interpret that as an invalidation of Christianity - an acclamation that its central tenet and foundational belief is false. You don't have to use the words "false religion" to pronounce Christianity as such.
I think it's fair to point out that a significant aspect of the Jewish faith is that God deals differently with Jews than he does with non-Jews.
Sure, that's fair. So?
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
You yourself, a faithful Jew, have stated in this very thread that Jesus is dead. Any Christian would interpret that as an invalidation of Christianity - an acclamation that its central tenet and foundational belief is false. You don't have to use the words "false religion" to pronounce Christianity as such.
I didn't use the phrase "false religion" as it relates to Christianity for a couple of reasons.
1. with no agree upon definition of "religion" I'm not sure the conversation would be fruitful
2. my understanding of history and an opinion about a section of the population or an entire faith need not be related
3. my opinion, informed by my religion does not give me a clear opinion on the matter so I wouldn't give an opinion.
I didn't use the phrase "false religion" as it relates to Christianity for a couple of reasons.
No, you didn't use those words. But when a non-Christian says that Jesus is dead, what do you think a Christian interprets that to mean? That the Christian religion is false because it is predicated on a false belief in an historical event that never actually happened.
A person can believe what they like about the Resurrection of Christ; but it's disingenuous to make a truth claim about it (i.e. "it didn't happen") and then say, "oh, but I'm not saying Christianity is false". Yes, actually you are.
Thanks for sharing. I wish all exchanges with believers could be like this -- respectful, considerate, relatively assumption-free, and seeking greater understanding.
No, you didn't use those words. But when a non-Christian says that Jesus is dead, what do you think a Christian interprets that to mean? That the Christian religion is false because it is predicated on a false belief of an historical event that never actually happened.
A person can believe what they like about the Resurrection of Christ; but it's disingenuous to make a truth claim about it (i.e. "it didn't happen") and then say, "oh, but I'm not saying Christianity is false". Yes, actually you are.
Back off. Your arrogant presumptions about your religion do NOT constitute the basis for Truth or Reality, period! I am Christian but I reject YOUR interpretation of Christ's "resurrection" as a physical body. He was "born again" as Spirit (as He tried to explain to Nicodemus!). Our primitive ancestors (and apparently you) were not ready for any spiritual understanding. They were too conditioned to physical existence (carnal-minded) and terrified of Spirits.
Back off. Your arrogant presumptions about your religion do NOT constitute the basis for Truth or Reality, period! I am Christian but I reject YOUR interpretation of Christ's "resurrection" as a physical body. He was "born again" as Spirit (as He tried to explain to Nicodemus!). Our primitive ancestors (and apparently you) were not ready for any spiritual understanding. They were too conditioned to physical existence (carnal-minded) and terrified of Spirits.
Back off of what? Another poster and I are having a civil and enlightening discussion. Your ravings have no relevance to the topic at hand or to this thread at all.
Back off of what? Another poster and I are having a civil and enlightening discussion. Your ravings have no relevance to the topic at hand or to this thread at all.
You are adamantly accusing rosends unjustly of what YOU alone are guilty of. That is NOT civil. So back off.
Expect all the usual rude and hostile posts in P&OC, but it is a chance to see what is said about a theocracy in a context where people didn't even log in to read anything about religion.
No, you didn't use those words. But when a non-Christian says that Jesus is dead, what do you think a Christian interprets that to mean? That the Christian religion is false because it is predicated on a false belief in an historical event that never actually happened.
A person can believe what they like about the Resurrection of Christ; but it's disingenuous to make a truth claim about it (i.e. "it didn't happen") and then say, "oh, but I'm not saying Christianity is false". Yes, actually you are.
then we clearly are starting with different ideas of what a religion is and what false means because I haven't. What you hear is what you expect would make sense when the roles are reversed.
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