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Have you studied the sheer size of the Universe? How do you explain the extremely large size with nothing spiritually or physically alive out there?
How do you explain it WITH spiritually or physically alive out there, considering most of the universe is not friendly to life?
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Originally Posted by Universe93B
If you are an atheist, wouldn't you have some sort of explanation on how life came about on Earth? Seems odd you would just say it happened and we can't explain it.
We can not explain the how, but all the different theories are based on scientific facts. We are not the ones who can not explain how it happened, that is the religious, who simply assert a god did it somehow.
How do you explain it WITH spiritually or physically alive out there, considering most of the universe is not friendly to life?
We can not explain the how, but all the different theories are based on scientific facts. We are not the ones who can not explain how it happened, that is the religious, who simply assert a god did it somehow.
God did do it. Anything and Everything is created and/or occurs by and through God (Reality/All That Is).
Anything that humans find out about "how it happened" is just finding out how God functioned and is comprised.
It also doesn't/wouldn't matter if we never figured that out.
It IS what it is, and how it is...regardless.
^^^^ yet to show reality is a god (which should be done in the pantheism thread).
Ahhhhhh...yes. Invoke the "Pantheism Thread" sequester...to shield you from your "lack".
I did not mention the Pantheist Religion...I just noted the relationship of The Universe/Us/and God...as per the thread.
God definitively comports with Reality...and humankind has recognized Reality (The Universe/All That Is/Nature/Etc) as "God" for longer than any other manifestation of The Divine.
It is a common/normal/standard perception among humans...except for a few that are deficient in that regard (like the blind relative to the normal sighted).
How do you explain it WITH spiritually or physically alive out there, considering most of the universe is not friendly to life?
We can not explain the how, but all the different theories are based on scientific facts. We are not the ones who can not explain how it happened, that is the religious, who simply assert a god did it somehow.
You can keep coming up with scientific research, but there will never be answers to everything and science will never lead to an absolute confirmation, its just a fruitless excercise.
As a born again Christian, you can actually feel the Holy Spirit. That in itself is enough evidence, once your experience it that there is whole other spiritual dimension out there we will never have answers for from a human scientific standpoint.
You can keep coming up with scientific research, but there will never be answers to everything and science will never lead to an absolute confirmation, its just a fruitless excercise.
Which is even more of a problem for your position. If only you applied that 'level of confidence' argument to your alternative.
Your problem is scientific findings can be tested, and so far it has always been naturalism, never a god doing it.
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Originally Posted by DannyHobkins
As a born again Christian, you can actually feel the Holy Spirit. That in itself is enough evidence, once your experience it that there is whole other spiritual dimension out there we will never have answers for from a human scientific standpoint.
Which is evidence for you, not for others. It is also a problem when other religious believers feel their gods presence, which must mean their religion is also true, and by logical extension, yours must be false. That is the problem experiencing something you can not verify, and that provides no answers to the big questions.
From what I learned is that the vastness of the universe where the spirit of man is there is only one realm of God, as there are other realms of God there are other spirit where the realm of the universe is not seen, Through the bible there are three realms which are the realm of the universe, the realm of the flesh, the realm of the high places, the realm of the supernatural of God ...... The spirits in each are incompatible with other realm and the spirit of each cannot be seen in other realm except, with some power, spirits can visit other realms ...... The realms of the universe, the flesh, the High places are now stuck to the earth under the power of God where the realms of the supernatural God can go beyond the realm of the universe of the earth is
It is also a problem when other religious believers feel their gods presence, which must mean their religion is also true, and by logical extension, yours must be false. That is the problem experiencing something you can not verify, and that provides no answers to the big questions.
Not really. There are many paths to finding God. Different saints reached the goal in different ways. Some with contemplation, others with devotion, others with meditation and Pranayama techniques etc.
If Jesus, Buddha, Krishna and others would get together to have a conversation (on CD for instance ), they would get along just fine.
What I did (because I nedeed proof of God's existence, I have a rational mind) is to experiment. So I started to meditate. Using different techniques, breathing exercises, reading about saints and avatars, everything that I could find. But I had to experiment to see if I get any proof, any results. Because reading about it was interesting but it also sounded like SF to me.
One doesn't need to believe in anything in order to experiment and to start meditating. At least you can say that you tried.
Not really. There are many paths to finding God. Different saints reached the goal in different ways. Some with contemplation, others with devotion, others with meditation and Pranayama techniques etc.
If Jesus, Buddha, Krishna and others would get together to have a conversation (on CD for instance ), they would get along just fine.
What I did (because I nedeed proof of God's existence, I have a rational mind) is to experiment. So I started to meditate. Using different techniques, breathing exercises, reading about saints and avatars, everything that I could find. But I had to experiment to see if I get any proof, any results. Because reading about it was interesting but it also sounded like SF to me.
One doesn't need to believe in anything in order to experiment and to start meditating. At least you can say that you tried.
There doesn't seem to be any desire to engage in self-meditation or exploration. The total focus seems dependent on the next person to the point of anger and hostility.
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), they would get along just fine. 
