The GOP "COMMITMENT TO AMERICA." (atheist, bible, quote)
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No one really seems to know what specific plans, policies or laws are behind this "Commitment to America" now being promised to Americans by the GOP, but the ultra-vague descriptions and talking points sound really good. Another great hook to round up another bunch of conservatives who don't seem to care about the details, but I think I've hit on what the commitment really is after all is said and done...
"Admit nothing. Deny everything and make counter allegations."
Been working like a charm for lots of folks so far! Why not continue the commitment?
As i understand it they plan to "declare" America to be a "Christian nation". That's the other part of this kind of thinking, just assert things, no basis required.
As to "admit nothing", it sounds like someone I know who found letters from someone her BF was cheating with, signed by the person no less, so she ended the relationship. He claimed it was not that person but a former GF despite the signatures. Years later she's a married woman and this ex BF is doing an AA apology tour and contacts her with this sorry/not sorry routine, still after all these years maintaining it wasn't what it looked like (the refrain of every pole-catter, everywhere, it seems: "wait! I can explain! It's not what it looks like!")
So yes admit nothing, deny everything, and deflect in any way possible. I think some people genuinely think they can will or speak an alternative reality into existence, in order to erase their personal responsibility and preserve their carefully cultivated self image as "not the bad guy" or more exactly in religious matters, "nothing to be ashamed of, even though I am fully aware at some level that it's morally and ethically reprehensible".
I would like to point out that Republicans and Christians (as they are involved in the politics of this country) are only interested in furthering their own agendas and are using each other to that end. Christians want a Christian autocracy ruled by a Christian autocrat similar to the Taliban and Republicans want to hold on to their cushy jobs in that Taliban-like autocracy. Other than that both couldn't care less about the other.
I would like to point out that Republicans and Christians (as they are involved in the politics of this country) are only interested in furthering their own agendas and are using each other to that end. Christians want a Christian autocracy ruled by a Christian autocrat similar to the Taliban and Republicans want to hold on to their cushy jobs in that Taliban-like autocracy. Other than that both couldn't care less about the other.
Ultimately you are correct perhaps, but I think that evangelical Christianity has made a metpahorical pact with the devil, a sort of unholy alliance with the political right that is sucking whatever moral authority evangelicals ever had right out of them. By aligning themselves the the mechanisms of power and dominance in the world they have in a sense become one with it.
I have a great deal of difficulty having sane conversations with my oldest surviving brother these days as he is both a fundagelical and a republican and his sole objection to Trump was that he's just "too brash" perhaps but otherwise, nothing to see here -- he's fine with the grifting, the fascistic ideations, the casual crime family schtick. This would have been unimaginable when my parents were alive. Something has radically shifted in evangelical thinking in the past generation. It's all-in now on temporal power for its own sake. That is a huge sea change from when I was in the faith. Back then, involvement in politics was a sign of worldiness, not of spirituality.
I would like to point out that Republicans and Christians (as they are involved in the politics of this country) are only interested in furthering their own agendas and are using each other to that end. Christians want a Christian autocracy ruled by a Christian autocrat similar to the Taliban and Republicans want to hold on to their cushy jobs in that Taliban-like autocracy. Other than that both couldn't care less about the other.
Aren’t most Republicans already white and Christian? There is a real movement for a Catholic Monarchy, an idea tested right here in this forum.
Ultimately you are correct perhaps, but I think that evangelical Christianity has made a metpahorical pact with the devil, a sort of unholy alliance with the political right that is sucking whatever moral authority evangelicals ever had right out of them. By aligning themselves the the mechanisms of power and dominance in the world they have in a sense become one with it.
I have a great deal of difficulty having sane conversations with my oldest surviving brother these days as he is both a fundagelical and a republican and his sole objection to Trump was that he's just "too brash" perhaps but otherwise, nothing to see here -- he's fine with the grifting, the fascistic ideations, the casual crime family schtick. This would have been unimaginable when my parents were alive. Something has radically shifted in evangelical thinking in the past generation. It's all-in now on temporal power for its own sake. That is a huge sea change from when I was in the faith. Back then, involvement in politics was a sign of worldiness, not of spirituality.
I dont know about the new thrust of religion into politics. What about Billy Graham? He had a huge influence on the Presidents. It is just more visible now, and it is not just in the US. Religion is huge aspect of nationalism in many countries, and always was.The cure though is not in attacking religion, barking at the wrong tree, it lies in empowering the people with economic equality, greater education, employment for migrants, child care and health care.
Aren’t most Republicans already white and Christian? There is a real movement for a Catholic Monarchy, an idea tested right here in this forum.
Often, but not always. I have an atheist sister who is a Republican, and we used to have a regular poster here who left the forum at his own request who was gay, atheist, and very Republican. He espoused views such as that mothers should always stay home with their children and not work outside the home. And we have a black Christian poster who posts in P&OC who is very far right-wing.
The majority are white and Christian, yes, but there are a fair number of exceptions.
I dont know about the new thrust of religion into politics. What about Billy Graham? He had a huge influence on the Presidents. It is just more visible now, and it is not just in the US. Religion is huge aspect of nationalism in many countries, and always was.The cure though is not in attacking religion, barking at the wrong tree, it lies in empowering the people with economic equality, greater education, employment for migrants, child care and health care.
But those are all things that many conservative Christians oppose precisely because of their religion and they bolster those beliefs with Bible verses. Which of course liberal Christians like to point out are taken out of context.
But those are all things that many conservative Christians oppose precisely because of their religion and they bolster those beliefs with Bible verses. Which of course liberal Christians like to point out are taken out of context.
We still have a secular govt. The reason US lags behind most other advanced countries in providing better social services, free education, child care and maternity benefits is because of the total faith in the God of Capitalism and the deathly fear of socialism. Corporate America rules. Although we are also a socialist country in many ways, but many Americans dont realize it. It is not religion. Religion in fact fills the gap where the govt. fails.
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Sure there are some Black Republicans as well, but they are also Christians.