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Integrity is not lost. To think it is depends on how what is integrity is defined. Is strict adherence to a moral code (one dictionary definition) integrity? So a starving man stealing some stale bread the same as Big Pharma making huge profits for drugs that people need to live? Moral codes do not define integrity. Integrity is within, illuminated by Divine grace.
Integrity is not lost. To think it is depends on how what is integrity is defined. Is strict adherence to a moral code (one dictionary definition) integrity? So a starving man stealing some stale bread the same as Big Pharma making huge profits for drugs that people need to live? Moral codes do not define integrity. Integrity is within, illuminated by Divine grace.
Well, if you were talking about christianity, the commandment simply says that 'thou shalt not steal'. It doesn't add, unless there's a good reason to.
In Buddhism the Precept is "abstain from taking what is not given".
Does asteya allow stealing if you think you have a good excuse for it?
Given the rest of your paragraph, saying "Integrity is within, illuminated by Divine grace" seems to be an excuse to do what you think you should be able to do whether your religion demands adherence to a moral code or not.
I would say not adhering to the religion you preach would indicate a lack of integrity.
Well, if you were talking about christianity, the commandment simply says that 'thou shalt not steal'. It doesn't add, unless there's a good reason to.
In Buddhism the Precept is "abstain from taking what is not given".
Does asteya allow stealing if you think you have a good excuse for it?
Given the rest of your paragraph, saying "Integrity is within, illuminated by Divine grace" seems to be an excuse to do what you think you should be able to do whether your religion demands adherence to a moral code or not.
I would say not adhering to the religion you preach would indicate a lack of integrity.
I would say you have improper/inadequate understanding of Buddhism, integrity and the lack of it, and Divine grace.
The thread titled "Questions about life, values, meaning" got me thinking about sacredness because of a comment about integrity and how it's been lost. Perhaps its foundation was a shaky one, where performance was more important than substance.
I have heard it said, "Is there anything left that is sacred?" Keep Sunday for the Lord, keep peace on Christmas and Easter, keep Christ in Christmas, and keep marriage between a man and a woman. But what about all the other days and the other ways when people act less than whole? Keeping those few things sacred is just performative.
Interesting, though not something I often think about really, and I'm not sure what brings these questions up in your mind. Other than the comments that get posted by some in this forum. Reading lots of comments in this forum can make one wonder about "sacredness" and "integrity," but as a rule for me anyway, it's about people...
I generally feel a sense of sacredness and integrity when it comes to my relationships with family, friends and way of life. People can either inspire or disappoint along these lines and needless to say, whichever we tend to associate or relate to (in this forum or outside) can influence our sense of the world around us.
Where you really confuse me more than just a bit is how you juxtapose what's left of sacred with ways "people act less than whole." Are we less than whole if we don't keep Sunday for the Lord? Or if two men or two women want marriage to be other than just for heterosexuals?
The "live and let live" principle is among the sacred ones for me...
Oh! And happy Easter Sunday everyone! Soon to sign off and begin preparation of our BESB...
Interesting, though not something I often think about really, and I'm not sure what brings these questions up in your mind. Other than the comments that get posted by some in this forum. Reading lots of comments in this forum can make one wonder about "sacredness" and "integrity," but as a rule for me anyway, it's about people...
I generally feel a sense of sacredness and integrity when it comes to my relationships with family, friends and way of life. People can either inspire or disappoint along these lines and needless to say, whichever we tend to associate or relate to (in this forum or outside) can influence our sense of the world around us.
Where you really confuse me more than just a bit is how you juxtapose what's left of sacred with ways "people act less than whole." Are we less than whole if we don't keep Sunday for the Lord? Or if two men or two women want marriage to be other than just for heterosexuals?
The "live and let live" principle is among the sacred ones for me...
Oh! And happy Easter Sunday everyone! Soon to sign off and begin preparation of our BESB...
I didn't say I often think about these things, just that I was inspired to, Learme. Of course, my answer to your questions is no. CB2008 said it better which is that integrity was never lost, probably needs to be better defined between two individuals.
Happy Easter to you. Oh, and that is a pretty hilarious comment about the charming couple. I don't think I've ever been referred to as charming. Looks like all my hard work is finally paying off.
It annoys me somewhat that certain branches of Christianity only classify "Christians", as those that have been Born Again.
Next month there is the Coronation of King Charles, one group is sending a lot of Evangelicals there with Bible tracts, as they regard King Charles as not born again, and hence "unsaved":
FWIW I am a Republican and not a Monarchist, and will not be watching this Coronation Ceremony of King Charles in London next month.
I'm a liberal and not a monarchist either, except as one who can appreciate the "pomp and circumstance" it all provides in the way of public spectacle, tourism and all the rest. I was recently in London, and boy how the locals love following Royalty! Prince Harry's memoir was headline news everywhere and what they love to talk about. It's all entertainment really. For the Brits it's like how a lot of Americans watch their favorite sport.
A significant part of UK history as well, and for the rest of the world for that matter, so there's that too, but I hear you. Much like what the evangelists do, nothing I really take too seriously, and I know we are not alone when it comes to this sentiment generally speaking.
"Different strokes for different folks" as some like to say...
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