Can anyone explain to us the phenomena of 'Speaking in Tongues' ? (Christian, verse)

[RomulusXXV]

Originally Posted by E-Twist

Hysteria? Attention seekers? Crazy people?

Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel

just because a person may speak in a way you do not,
does not make them any of the above.

'Gibberish' is not speech. How would you describe someone who utters unintelligible sounds and attempts to pass them off as a 'heavenly language'?

I'm sure that psychology has a more official sounding/less deprecating term for this practice.

[RomulusXXV]

Originally Posted by RomulusXXV

Maybe all of the above. Herd mentality is another. But, while I hate to admit this because it then makes it so difficult to pinpoint what is actually going on, I do believe that there ARE those who GENUINELY believe that they are speaking in a 'heavenly language'. They're not speaking in any 'angelic language', of course,* but they sincerely believe that they are.

There is this human condition where 'gibberish' CAN spontaneously occur, particularly when someone is in an aroused state of emotional ecstasy. When this occurs, the person temporarily loses control of reality and slips into a condition that, I'm sure, has a clinical name. I began googling some online medical science journals for further information, but I soon lost interest and put this on hold.

*Unless angels DO speak 'gibberish'.

Originally Posted by LearnMe

Please leave my wife out of this...

The 'angel' part or 'the gibberish' . . .?

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

So much could have been done with that time.

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

OMG, I could have been watching Yellowstone all this time!

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I was thinking more like volunteer work. Helping others.

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

Yeah, but c'mon. I mean, Rip is HOT.

Originally Posted by phetaroi

I must be slow tonight. What does that mean?

Rip Wheeler, played by Cole Hauser, is a character on Yellowstone. In a TV show infested with some eye-catching testosterone, he stands a hat above.

Rip Wheeler https://g.co/kgs/A39qrL

[G.Duval]

Originally Posted by ocpaul20

As a complete outsider of this, (since my childhood church did not have this phenomena) my understanding of it is that, it is the Holy Spirit filling the person and causing them to express themselves in sounds without any limitation.

Someone looking at this phenomena for the first time might think it is just a babble of sound, but is there any meaning in it for others?
What is the point of it?
What can be gained from a Speaking in Tongues event?
What can the person doing the Speaking expect from the other members of the church?
Is it a special even which is talked about in the church for weeks afterwards? Does it make a kind-of celebrity?

I think, it is pure mechnical response. Like driving inside mountain range wuth your radio on, radio would be silent but occasinally you woukd get reception and hear radio for a shirt time and often it would be dustorted. The same with tongues. We were designed to receive spiritual information, it was naturally or unnaturally supressed over the centuries but stil in us, some got better reception then others.
As Paul in Heb 5 suggests to train senses in order to know good and evil...

[LearnMe]

Originally Posted by RomulusXXV

'Gibberish' is not speech. How would you describe someone who utters unintelligible sounds and attempts to pass them off as a 'heavenly language'?

I'm sure that psychology has a more official sounding/less deprecating term for this practice.

Much like so much about which we're all called upon to pass judgement, there are always people who will even defend gibberish as worthy or somehow equal in status to better forms of communication, logic and/or reason. Again it's always apparently to make room for their own version of nonsense, as ongoing protection against appropriate scrutiny and critical thinking that is more inclined to call out, gibberish for example, for what it is.

Sometimes deprecating terms are altogether appropriate from the better more discerning standpoint...

[LearnMe]

Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801

Rip Wheeler, played by Cole Hauser, is a character on Yellowstone. In a TV show infested with some eye-catching testosterone, he stands a hat above.

Rip Wheeler https://g.co/kgs/A39qrL

There's this other character, played by Kevin Costner, that tends to catch the eye of many a lady including my wife for reasons my wife is all too willing to explain...

[LearnMe]

Originally Posted by G.Duval

I think, it is pure mechnical response. Like driving inside mountain range wuth your radio on, radio would be silent but occasinally you woukd get reception and hear radio for a shirt time and often it would be dustorted. The same with tongues. We were designed to receive spiritual information, it was naturally or unnaturally supressed over the centuries but stil in us, some got better reception then others.
As Paul in Heb 5 suggests to train senses in order to know good and evil...

Seems like you really believe this...

I understand mechanical responses and radio signals that are very easy to verify in terms of source and/or existence. This about tongues and reception of "spiritual information" is another matter altogether. How anyone can deny our ability to conjure up such notions by way of manipulating our thought processes, I really don't know. Sure seems to me to demonstrate a real lack of understanding about just how powerful our brains can be with regard to all manner of profound feelings, emotions and experiences having nothing to do with anything spiritual or the supernatural.

Understand how the brain works first, then the rest is much easier to understand or explain without necessarily going into outer space.

[G.Duval]

Originally Posted by LearnMe

Seems like you really believe this...

I understand mechanical responses and radio signals that are very easy to verify in terms of source and/or existence. This about tongues and reception of "spiritual information" is another matter altogether. How anyone can deny our ability to conjure up such notions by way of manipulating our thought processes, I really don't know. Sure seems to me to demonstrate a real lack of understanding about just how powerful our brains can be with regard to all manner of profound feelings, emotions and experiences having nothing to do with anything spiritual or the supernatural.

Understand how the brain works first, then the rest is much easier to understand or explain without necessarily going into outer space.

I'm still trying to figure out who knows how brain works?

[Tzaphkiel]

Originally Posted by LearnMe

Much like so much about which we're all called upon to pass judgement, there are always people who will even defend gibberish as worthy or somehow equal in status to better forms of communication, logic and/or reason. Again it's always apparently to make room for their own version of nonsense, as ongoing protection against appropriate scrutiny and critical thinking that is more inclined to call out, gibberish for example, for what it is. Sometimes deprecating terms are altogether appropriate from the better more discerning standpoint...

deprecation indicates and demonstrates the mindset of the person using it.
deprecation is not "discernment." nor is it "better". nor is it "critical thinking."

it is a narrow mind which engages in deprecation.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel

deprecation indicates and demonstrates the mindset of the person using it.
deprecation is not "discernment." nor is it "better". nor is it "critical thinking."

it is a narrow mind which engages in deprecation.

Thank you for that classic example of deprecation.