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Old 12-22-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Tzaphkiel View Post
when you can discuss religion and spirituality without mentioning, referencing, talking about, or linking to articles about politics, then there can be a discussion.
You're always trying to set YOUR rules for discussions.
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Old 12-22-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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if people want to talk politics, then they can take it over to that forum. it's called following the terms of service.
most people are able to understand that.
Here, in this thread/forum, it's not talking politics. It's talking about how people can completely misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions. About anything really; politics, religion, race, sex, gender. A point of consideration that applies across the board. One I believe important to consider enough to include or share that article in this forum too. As previously explained when I did.

Does it really not occur to you that despite your repeated insistence along these lines, me, a good many others and the Mods don't seem to agree with you? How can that continue to go unnoticed or completely dismissed by you? Over and over again! Or rather than incessantly object as you do, why not simply focus on the comments that you would prefer to address? Why always so unnecessarily combative?

I really don't know, but no doubt you have raised the bar when it comes to obstinance beyond the pale! Something's not right in any case...
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Old 12-22-2022, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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You're always trying to set YOUR rules for discussions.
I've never been clear on whether links were required to follow the same rules as posts regarding these sub forums.

You don't have to click on links.

Maybe the moderators can clear that up.
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Old 12-22-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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I've never been clear on whether links were required to follow the same rules as posts regarding these sub forums.

You don't have to click on links.

Maybe the moderators can clear that up.
I don't think the issue at hand here has to do with whether to use links or not, or maybe I'm not sure what you mean, but either way it's always good to get some clarification for whomever might need it where needed.
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Old 12-22-2022, 01:47 PM
 
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Here, in this thread/forum, it's not talking politics. It's talking about how people can completely misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions. About anything really; politics, religion, race, sex, gender. A point of consideration that applies across the board. One I believe important to consider enough to include or share that article in this forum too. As previously explained when I did. Does it really not occur to you that despite your repeated insistence along these lines, me, a good many others and the Mods don't seem to agree with you? How can that continue to go unnoticed or completely dismissed by you? Over and over again! Or rather than incessantly object as you do, why not simply focus on the comments that you would prefer to address? Why always so unnecessarily combative? I really don't know, but no doubt you have raised the bar when it comes to obstinance beyond the pale! Something's not right in any case...
if indeed that is your desire, to discuss "how people can misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions" then how about giving examples as an atheist of your own completely misunderstanding, holding false assumptions, and misconceptions you have had about those who believe in God?

which would actually be discussing religion and spirituality in the religion and spirituality section of the forum; and would actually be on topic for a thread about atheists in the religion and spirituality forum.

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Old 12-22-2022, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I've never been clear on whether links were required to follow the same rules as posts regarding these sub forums.

You don't have to click on links.

Maybe the moderators can clear that up.
I must be obtuse today. Not sure what you're saying here.
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Old 12-23-2022, 09:44 AM
 
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if indeed that is your desire, to discuss "how people can misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions" then how about giving examples as an atheist of your own completely misunderstanding, holding false assumptions, and misconceptions you have had about those who believe in God?

which would actually be discussing religion and spirituality in the religion and spirituality section of the forum; and would actually be on topic for a thread about atheists in the religion and spirituality forum.
Since you continue to question my intentions, and since you don't seem to understand a thing I've been trying to explain, I'm hard pressed to bother with your additional requests, but if you are suggesting there are no atheists who misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions, or that this is what I'm suggesting, again you are sadly mistaken. Of course there are! Who needs examples?
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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Since you continue to question my intentions, and since you don't seem to understand a thing I've been trying to explain, I'm hard pressed to bother with your additional requests, but if you are suggesting there are no atheists who misunderstand, hold false assumptions and misconceptions about people who hold differing opinions, or that this is what I'm suggesting, again you are sadly mistaken. Of course there are! Who needs examples?
examples would actually demonstrate that is (a) what you actually desire to discuss, and (b) have experience and a grasp of the claimed topic, and (c) examples illustrate the topic for readers and generate discussion.

in the same way for instance if someone states on a baking forum they have great scone recipes, it is natural for readers to ask for recipes to be shared. and if the person making the claim says they "can't be bothered with the request" well......it's the difference between vague generalities and, well actual examples which illustrate the claim.

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Old 12-23-2022, 10:27 AM
 
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examples would actually demonstrate that is (a) what you actually desire to discuss, and (b) have expericne and a grasp of that purported topic.

in the same way for instance if someone states on a baking forum they have great scone recipes, it is natural for readers to ask for recipes to be shared. and if they say they "can't be bothered with the request" well......
I'm not inclined to spend time here defending accusations about my intentions or desires any further with you.

In the same way for instance it's like stepping into a pool of quicksand that has no bottom. I've shared what I care to share, including that article about how people can develop false impressions about people who don't share their opinions and points of view. Some appreciated that read. You don't. I am in no way surprised.

I'll not concern myself with that fact any more than I'm going to concern myself with all the rest of your obstinance about one thing or another and everything else. All the best to you as I prefer to sign off now. Make of that what you will and in so doing you will no doubt embarrass yourself further. Or should be embarrassed given the truths of these matters, about me in particular.

I've got better things to do in any case. Cheers!
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Old 12-23-2022, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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As a theist, I'm frankly more interested in communicating with those that humbly search for truth.

Be them theist or atheist.

And I'm grateful for the challenge atheists present.

Helps me " refine " my views.

Happy Holidays.
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