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There is human corruption and competing agendas within science contrary to the ideals expressed here about its rigor!!
It's no longer science. It's scientism, a form of cult blindly following the science.
"Unlike the use of the scientific method as only one mode of reaching knowledge, scientism claims that science alone can render truth about the world and reality." (PBS)
Now, my point of view is different. It is informed by spirituality that says I am everything in and of the world, the center of my existential reality encompassing the known universe.
You don't agree? Let's debate: science vs spirituality.
Can you give me an idea on how would I be able to agree or disagree (much less debate) with something that looks like a word salad to me.
I mean, I understand every word in the above sentence no problem (except "spirituality", still looking for meaningful definition or something).
But the proposed pretentious and pseudo sophisticated combination of those words just fails to make any kind of sense.
Can you give me an idea on how would I be able to agree or disagree (much less debate) with something that looks like a word salad to me.
I mean, I understand every word in the above sentence no problem (except "spirituality", still looking for meaningful definition or something).
But the proposed pretentious and pseudo sophisticated combination of those words just fails to make any kind of sense.
Thanks for pointing it out. Word salad. You are not wrong. I reread my sentence you highlighted and couldn't wrap my head around it even after reading it the third time.
It's not me. It's the English Language. What I wanted to convey is inexpressible. I was writing in tongues.
Thanks for pointing it out. Word salad. You are not wrong. I reread my sentence you highlighted and couldn't wrap my head around it even after reading it the third time.
It's not me. It's the English Language. What I wanted to convey is inexpressible. I was writing in tongues.
That's great that I was able to be helpful. I'm glad you got it!
Let me know when you are ready to convey this spiritual ideas of yours in a more or less coherent manner
Maybe we'll find a thing or two worthy of a little debate.
That's great that I was able to be helpful. I'm glad you got it!
Let me know when you are ready to convey this spiritual ideas of yours in a more or less coherent manner
Maybe we'll find a thing or two worthy of a little debate.
I don't think so, my friend. You might try figuring out Douglas Harding in the link below. He only lost his head. You will have to give up everything to follow me.
There is human corruption and competing agendas within science contrary to the ideals expressed here about its rigor!!
Correct, science is not always as rigorous as it should be. But it is far more rigorous than many theists imply, who need to attack science while ignoring their beliefs usually lack rigor.
It's no longer science. It's scientism, a form of cult blindly following the science.
"Unlike the use of the scientific method as only one mode of reaching knowledge, scientism claims that science alone can render truth about the world and reality." (PBS)
Mystic was talking about scientists, not the people who accept the science without understanding it. The problems with your ad hominem post is that 1) several of us do understand the science, and 2) we are not only relying on science.
You, like many theists, are using 'scientism' as an ad hominem to simply dismiss actual arguments instead of addressing the actual arguments.
Scientific advances have not made a dent in the religious life of humanity.
As we do not know the percentage of atheists or agnostics through historical times, how do you know? It is no good whining about science just because for over 2000 years, it has always been naturalism that explains things, never a god.
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People generally don't want to be reduce by the objectivity of science to the existential level of a piece of rock.
The universe does not care about what people want.
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Secularists would insist that humanism is imbued with ethics too. They are a new generation of people that are drifting to the dark side.
Or away from the dark side, with some drifting to a different dark side.
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