Why an Atheist in the R&S Forum?

[cb2008]

Originally Posted by LearnMe

Red or white?

A bubbly.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

We accept this because of the evidence.



We reject this because of the lack of evidence.

The Wikipedia article about this is quite well done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossi...he%20Red%20Sea.

Some should skip down to the Historicity section.

[myuen2]

Originally Posted by Michael Way

Can it be proven that objects are attracted by the earth, you ask? Sure. It is well known that earth's gravity is stronger in some places than at others. In places where earth's mass is greater (a greater density of rock) there is a greater amount of gravity, not much, but it is measurable. Also, altitude affects gravity. The higher the altitude the weaker the gravity. This is why an object weighs less at altitude than when on the ground. This is also why time passes at a faster rate the further away from the ground you are and more slowly the closer to the ground you are. Differences in gravity have a measurable effect on the rate at which time passes and this has been proven in experiments using two atomic clocks, one on the ground and the other at altitude.

So, yes, the earth's gravity attracts objects. When you drop something it doesn't fall up, it falls down towards the ground.

If you choose not to accept that well proven fact, that's your choice, but

What is a fact is that things fall down, not up. You believe that it's gravity because Newton said so. I don't believe that. I think it is magic.

[myuen2]

Originally Posted by LearnMe

Hard to have the sort of discussion you were advocating by shoving crap along rather than something a bit more worthy of consideration. Just saying...

Again, you are new here, and again welcome! I'm all for promoting the better discussions, and since you are new (speaking of gospel truth), I will direct you to a thread I started some time ago that made for more of the discussion I think you might enjoy. Fairly well known by the regulars here. I called it my Ten Truths. Check it out and feel free to post your thoughts there if you like!

Thanks, buddy. I will definitely check it out.

I do not indulge in discussions for enjoyment. Life is too serious for mindless fun.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by myuen2

Thanks, buddy. I will definitely check it out.

I do not indulge in discussions for enjoyment. Life is too serious for mindless fun.

As you pointed out in post 343?

[myuen2]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

As you pointed out in post 343?

Correct. I don't think you can fall in love with anyone or anything.


I never like going to school, and it was torture studying all that science and math in university. My parents said I had to do that to earn a living. I can't say I did not enjoy the challenge and excitement of my professional career but I could sense that I was living the absurd life of Sisyphus. I retired as soon as I could, early. Life is magical. I wasn't going to waste it pushing a boulder uphill like you.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by myuen2

What is a fact is that things fall down, not up. You believe that it's gravity because Newton said so. I don't believe that. I think it is magic.

Are you serious? You can't be that . . .backward.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by myuen2

Correct. I don't think you can fall in love with anyone or anything.


I never like going to school, and it was torture studying all that science and math in university. My parents said I had to do that to earn a living. I can't say I did not enjoy the challenge and excitement of my professional career but I could sense that I was living the absurd life of Sisyphus. I retired as soon as I could, early. Life is magical. I wasn't going to waste it pushing a boulder uphill like you.

That's not what your post 343 was about.

[Sonof]

Originally Posted by myuen2

What is a fact is that things fall down, not up. You believe that it's gravity because Newton said so. I don't believe that. I think it is magic.

No.

Knowledgeable, educated people don't believe that it's gravity because Newton said so.
They know that it is gravity b/c, based on what Newton said, they can make novel testable predictions.
They can predict all kinds of thing about the future nobody knows yet and they will be correct 100% of the time.


Moreover, they would be willing to bet as much as you, or any other magically thinking <<cut>> (I speak American) like you can come up with that they will be correct 100% of the time while predicting all kinds of thing about the future nobody knows yet and, at the same time, you, or any other magically thinking <<cut>> (I speak American) like you, will never be able to outperform dumb chance while trying to do the same. And that with all the help that can be gathered from any and all gods, spirits and magic.

So the question is, would you be willing to take these methodologically naturalistic bets in the name of gods, spirits and magic or what?

[Tzaphkiel]

Originally Posted by Harry Diogenes

And your evidence for this is ...?

common sense