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I've seen Him; but not in the way in which it's typically meant, like how I see these words on the screen.
He comes to us under the appearances of bread and wine. If you didn't know better, you'd probably think it was just ordinary bread and wine.
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Originally Posted by Cruithne
Why would it be unadvisable to shake his hand?
Who is worthy to touch the flesh of God? It seems awfully presumptuous. After His resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene not to touch Him (John 20:17).
Okay, and where is heaven exactly if you don't mind me asking?
The dwelling place of God most likely cannot be geographically placed in any way we could understand.
God's existence or "location" is not subject to or limited to the created universe or time and space. God is everywhere, and yet He is definitely somewhere.
I've seen Him; but not in the way in which it's typically meant, like how I see these words on the screen.
He comes to us under the appearances of bread and wine. If you didn't know better, you'd probably think it was just ordinary bread and wine.
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You've seen Jesus as bread and wine? Bread and wine that you have consumed?
And you believe that's actually Jesus?
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Who is worthy to touch the flesh of God? It seems awfully presumptuous. After His resurrection, Jesus told Mary Magdalene not to touch Him (John 20:17)
Didn't you touch the bread and wine? And eat the bread and wine?
Seems like going a lot further than shaking his hand.
The dwelling place of God most likely cannot be geographically placed in any way we could understand.
God's existence or "location" is not subject to or limited to the created universe or time and space. God is everywhere, and yet He is definitely somewhere.
But you said Jesus is an actual flesh and blood human.
And is also bread and wine.
So are you saying he's an actual flesh and blood human when he is in this 'unlimited time and space' place,
but sometimes he metamorphoses into bits of bread and wine in bottles across the planet?
But you said Jesus is an actual flesh and blood human.
And is also bread and wine.
So are you saying he's an actual flesh and blood human when he is in this 'unlimited time and space' place,
but sometimes he metamorphoses into bits of bread and wine in bottles across the planet?
Jesus does have actual flesh and blood, but at the same time He is God. He did not forfeit His Divinity when He took on human flesh. Rather, He gained His humanity.
The nature and essence of God is far more than we can comprehend. We do our best to explain it, but any explanation will inevitably be insufficient.
Jesus makes Himself available to His people as real food and drink as He promised to do in John 6.
It would not be correct to call the changing of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus a "metamorphosis", as "metamorphosis" implies change of form. The forms of bread and wine do not change, but rather the substance (or "essence") is what changes. This is why we use the term "transubstantiation" to describe it.
The flesh and blood body of Jesus is indeed in heaven; but being that Jesus is God and His body has been resurrected and glorified, He is not confined to time and space as our bodies are.
Not with my hands, no. The priest places the host on my tongue.
So it's okay for the priests hands to touch Jesus parts but not yours, but you can touch his parts with your tongue and swallow them because that bit wouldn't be presumptuous?
Why is it okay for the priest to touch the bits with his hands just out of interest?
Jesus does have actual flesh and blood, but at the same time He is God. He did not forfeit His Divinity when He took on human flesh. Rather, He gained His humanity.
The nature and essence of God is far more than we can comprehend. We do our best to explain it, but any explanation will inevitably be insufficient.
Jesus makes Himself available to His people as real food and drink as He promised to do in John 6.
It would not be correct to call the changing of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus a "metamorphosis", as "metamorphosis" implies change of form. The forms of bread and wine do not change, but rather the substance (or "essence") is what changes. This is why we use the term "transubstantiation" to describe it.
The flesh and blood body of Jesus is indeed in heaven; but being that Jesus is God and His body has been resurrected and glorified, He is not confined to time and space as our bodies are.
What do you mean by "the essence' changes?
Are you saying it remains bread and wine?
But something else about it changes?
What's the essence please?
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