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But we could probably find common ground that there are at least too many unnecessary wars...perhaps? Maybe even that we spend too much money on military including foreign military bases while we let our poor go unattended to in a way that our religious teachings shouldn't allow.
And yet you've started a number of recent threads in the Politics forum that could be considered divisive. How can you act to oppose war, but then seem to stir up "wars" or battles between the two political parties? There's a disconnect that you might be missing. If you really value Jesus, they'll you'll be consistent, even across different areas of the forum.
As Eisenhower said we are not spending our money alone. We are spending the genius of our scientists, the sweat of our laborers, and the hopes of our children.
You know what could also help the economy? Building schools, houses, hospitals, and doing cancer research or other innovations instead of finding new ways to kill each other.
Jesus himself was a protestor and he said that quote at trial meaning to not focus on worldly things but your spiritual self.
I second that. It makes no sense to try to value and consider both, as they are nearly opposite approaches. The Jews understandably don't read or follow what constitutes the NT. By the same logic, it doesn't add up that Christians read and follow the OT.
And yet you've started a number of recent threads in the Politics forum that could be considered divisive. How can you act to oppose war, but then seem to stir up "wars" or battles between the two political parties? There's a disconnect that you might be missing. If you really value Jesus, they'll you'll be consistent, even across different areas of the forum.
No doubt going into the P&OC forum is no way to avert war!
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so then that means the New Testament is undone by the Qur'an
you're good with that, right?
that is a sincere question. so you can really think about what is posted above.
you = generic you, anyone, readers
Generic me, here. The biggest error in the use of so-called Holy Books has been the refusal to even consider alternate interpretations or other views about God usually using the terms heresy or apostasy. The Torah is indisputably inspired by God, IMO, as is the flexibility of spiritual interpretations in the Hebrew language. Islam at least acknowledges the commonality of "people of the book," but the retention of primitive barbaric interpretations and understanding remains a complete enigma to me. The unwillingness to acknowledge that obvious aspect of the primitive interpretations is inexplicable to me.
As Eisenhower said we are not spending our money alone. We are spending the genius of our scientists, the sweat of our laborers, and the hopes of our children.
You know what could also help the economy? Building schools, houses, hospitals, and doing cancer research or other innovations instead of finding new ways to kill each other.
Jesus himself was a protestor and he said that quote at trial meaning to not focus on worldly things but your spiritual self.
The old testament is undone by the new testament.
I don't think the old testament is undone, but the parables and context so obscure, we misunderstand the message. Take for instance, Genesis, psalms, beatitudes (not just the Sermon on the Mount ones), how could they be wrong?
How can we teach our children that violence is not the answer in their own lives, when we endorse a government that is so quick to use violence to handle its own disputes?...
There will always be wars, as long as mankind has war in its heart. Government exists to maintain continuity in our lives, free from chaos. To support a government is not to support war, but to support the bulwark against chaos.
To stand against war is feeble, one can only stand against one's own inner battles to resist the outward battles. One cannot stop others from fighting, that is their job.
You can always be a conscientious objector in times of war.
I don't think the old testament is undone, but the parables and context so obscure, we misunderstand the message. Take for instance, Genesis, psalms, beatitudes (not just the Sermon on the Mount ones), how could they be wrong?
The beatitudes are fine in preparing for the next life (for the sake of the discussion presuming that there is a next life), but not all are so wise for this life.
And yet you've started a number of recent threads in the Politics forum that could be considered divisive. How can you act to oppose war, but then seem to stir up "wars" or battles between the two political parties? There's a disconnect that you might be missing. If you really value Jesus, they'll you'll be consistent, even across different areas of the forum.
How exactly was I divisive in the politics forum? I sincerely believe that I was respectful and polite.
Is there not a difference between respectfully expressing beliefs and violence causing deaths?
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so then that means the New Testament is undone by the Qur'an
you're good with that, right?
that is a sincere question. so you can really think about what is posted above.
you = generic you, anyone, readers
That is an equally valid belief as mine that the New Testament undoes the Old Testament.
My religious beliefs are not necessarily any better or worse than other religions or lack thereof's beliefs.
You started one in which you said Biden was too old. That's putting you on one side; not neutral.
The Quaker position would be to not support politics, just as much as not supporting war.
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The biggest error in the use of so-called Holy Books has been the refusal to even consider alternate interpretations or other views about God usually using the terms heresy or apostasy. The Torah is indisputably inspired by God, IMO, as is the flexibility of spiritual interpretations in the Hebrew language. Islam at least acknowledges the commonality of "people of the book," but the retention of primitive barbaric interpretations and understanding remains a complete enigma to me. The unwillingness to acknowledge that obvious aspect of the primitive interpretations is inexplicable to me.
