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Is the crucifixion of Jesus recorded in Roman history?
The scholarly consensus is that Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate is both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.
The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.
The Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius [Josephus]) is the name given to the passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities in which Josephus describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Jesus at the hands of the Roman authorities.
Is the crucifixion of Jesus recorded in Roman history?
The scholarly consensus is that Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate is both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.
The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.
The Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius [Josephus]) is the name given to the passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities in which Josephus describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Jesus at the hands of the Roman authorities.
Neither are direct references as they were written decades later after the event allegedly occurred and the myth was clearly established. Not to say that it couldn't be true, but that is not proof.
It could be like someone claiming that Paul Bunyan existed or Johnny Appleseed was real a hundred years after they supposedly lived.
Is the crucifixion of Jesus recorded in Roman history?
The scholarly consensus is that Tacitus' reference to the execution of Jesus by Pontius Pilate is both authentic, and of historical value as an independent Roman source.
The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44.
A problem with Tacitus is that the early Christians searched Roman histories for a mention of Jesus, and did not find any, including in Tacitus.
Another problem is that even if genuine, we do not know where Tacitus found his information. If it was in the gospels, or indirectly from them, then it is not independent of Christian claims.
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Originally Posted by norman_w
The Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius [Josephus]) is the name given to the passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 of the Antiquities in which Josephus describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Jesus at the hands of the Roman authorities.
The Testimonium Flavianum is also not mentioned until the 4th century AD, and other pieces of evidence suggest it was invented by Eusebius (or possibly his teacher Pamphylus).
Why do we find mountains and sunsets beautiful? Why do we find a starry sky beautiful? Why do we produce and contemplate works of art?
How do you explain hundreds of 3rd world men being put on the ground in those beautiful mountains under those beautiful starry skies and then heavy rocks being lowered on them to the point they are covered and only their screams of agony can be heard underneath the rocks? Such horrors are visited on hundreds of thousands of humans every day in various parts of the world. As I said, you watch these videos and you see no god coming to rescue them. Where is your God?
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