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I agree with that. I have no knowledge of spiritual except that this is a concept invented by human brain and that a lot of people do cherish this imaginary thing a lot for some reason.
But I doubt very much that you have any spiritual knowledge either.
Knowledge on any subject affords people a very particular ability - using knowledge people are able to predict the future events with probability of success being higher than a random chance.
You cannot draw this ability from what you call "spiritual knowledge" which means that you don't have "spiritual knowledge"
All you have is an ability to attribute past events, including but not limited to you personal feelings, emotions, state of your body and mind to "spiritual forces".
This is not knowledge. This is confusion and self-deception based on your ignorance (lack of knowledge) as for the alternative, way more probable explanations to your experiences that don't involve imaginary concepts.
I agree with that. I have no knowledge of spiritual except that this is a concept invented by human brain and that a lot of people do cherish this imaginary thing a lot for some reason.
But I doubt very much that you have any spiritual knowledge either.
Knowledge on any subject affords people a very particular ability - using knowledge people are able to predict the future events with probability of success being higher than a random chance.
You cannot draw this ability from what you call "spiritual knowledge" which means that you don't have "spiritual knowledge"
All you have is an ability to attribute past events, including but not limited to you personal feelings, emotions, state of your body and mind to "spiritual forces".
This is not knowledge. This is confusion and self-deception based on your ignorance (lack of knowledge) as for the alternative, way more probable explanations to your experiences that don't involve imaginary concepts.
Sssssssss..........steaming hot burn! It's a load of horse hockey to claim you have a certain 'gift' or 'special knowledge'......that's about the time I turn around and run. It's not so imaginary to some, which is pretty scary.
I agree with that. I have no knowledge of spiritual except that this is a concept invented by human brain and that a lot of people do cherish this imaginary thing a lot for some reason.
But I doubt very much that you have any spiritual knowledge either.
Knowledge on any subject affords people a very particular ability - using knowledge people are able to predict the future events with probability of success being higher than a random chance.
You cannot draw this ability from what you call "spiritual knowledge" which means that you don't have "spiritual knowledge"
All you have is an ability to attribute past events, including but not limited to you personal feelings, emotions, state of your body and mind to "spiritual forces".
This is not knowledge. This is confusion and self-deception based on your ignorance (lack of knowledge) as for the alternative, way more probable explanations to your experiences that don't involve imaginary concepts.
As I have said before, a little woo goes a long way.
If God was an objective reality, wouldn’t everyone agree on what he/she/it is like?
No two people agree on what “God” is (or what “God” is like). Isn’t that pretty strong evidence that God is a subjective experience, like an emotion or something else going on in the human brain?
If God was an objective reality, wouldn’t everyone agree on what he/she/it is like?
No two people agree on what “God” is (or what “God” is like). Isn’t that pretty strong evidence that God is a subjective experience, like an emotion or something else going on in the human brain?
Maybe objective reality ain't all it's cracked up to be?
I'm not doubting there's apparently something (actually lots of somethings!) out there. I just think our consensus description is our best model and an imperfect one at that, so science marches on.
If God was an objective reality, wouldn’t everyone agree on what he/she/it is like?
No two people agree on what “God” is (or what “God” is like). Isn’t that pretty strong evidence that God is a subjective experience, like an emotion or something else going on in the human brain?
Actually what Divinity is is expressed quite succinctly in most religions. You can instantly recognize it if you know.
Actually what Divinity is is expressed quite succinctly in most religions. You can instantly recognize it if you know.
That’s not true at all. Every religion has a different concept of “god” or “divinity.” That’s what makes each religion unique. If every religion was making the same claims, there never would have been a religious war.
That’s not true at all. Every religion has a different concept of “god” or “divinity.” That’s what makes each religion unique. If every religion was making the same claims, there never would have been a religious war.
Wars are fought by people. People do all kinds of things, the religious, atheists, all. What one sees and understands from religious texts is conditioned upon the understanding of the reader and the maturity of his spirituality that informs it.
If God was an objective reality, wouldn’t everyone agree on what he/she/it is like?
If this god was the color red, then a color blind person would still see if different due to how they perceive things. Naturally an all powerful god could get around this problem, but why should a god be all powerful?
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No two people agree on what “God” is (or what “God” is like). Isn’t that pretty strong evidence that God is a subjective experience, like an emotion or something else going on in the human brain?
That is strong evidence that gods are invented, but there could be alternate reasons, such as the perception problem. That is why we should look at all the evidence to see which is the more probable answer.
That’s not true at all. Every religion has a different concept of “god” or “divinity.” That’s what makes each religion unique. If every religion was making the same claims, there never would have been a religious war.
We have explained about different divinities before, but they usually repeat their deepity with a false analogy, or they simply evade the point.
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Originally Posted by cb2008
Wars are fought by people. People do all kinds of things, the religious, atheists, all. What one sees and understands from religious texts is conditioned upon the understanding of the reader and the maturity of his spirituality that informs it.
Called it.
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