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Old 05-27-2023, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Germany
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God is known by many names, because we are finite, so is our perspective. Jesus, Buddha, Allah, etc. they are all names for the same omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Conscious Cause that I call God. We are all ONE.
How do you know it is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent? How do you know they are all one?
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Old 05-27-2023, 10:03 AM
 
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Good point, but philosophy died in the Western world with the advent of science. But not in the East, where there is no God outside of you that is not within you as well. One attains liberation by one’s own effort, which becomes religion.
good insight.
and even in the West, many paths recognize that Divinity is both within (immanent) and out there (transcendent)
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Old 05-27-2023, 10:14 AM
 
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Good point, but philosophy died in the Western world with the advent of science. But not in the East, where there is no God outside of you that is not within you as well. One attains liberation by one’s own effort, which becomes religion.
Considering that much of the Eastern world is Buddhist or somewhat related beliefs, that's NOT true.
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Old 05-27-2023, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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God is known by many names, because we are finite, so is our perspective. Jesus, Buddha, Allah, etc. they are all names for the same omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent Conscious Cause that I call God. We are all ONE.
No, in general Buddhists do not believe in a creator god. They are allowed to if they wish, but it is not a general belief. But gee, don't take the word of an acutal Buddhist; look it up for yourself. Do you have internet there in Mayberry?
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Old 05-27-2023, 11:17 AM
 
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good insight.
and even in the West, many paths recognize that Divinity is both within (immanent) and out there (transcendent)
Hence my PanENtheism! What makes most people NOT realize it is that they do not recognize that their own consciousness is both immanent and transcendent to physical Reality (in the image and likeness of God). The transcendence is revealed in our imagination which is completely unconstrained in its creations by any physical laws or limitations.
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Old 05-27-2023, 12:21 PM
 
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What makes most people NOT realize it is that they do not recognize that their own consciousness is both immanent and transcendent to physical Reality (in the image and likeness of God). The transcendence is revealed in our imagination which is completely unconstrained in its creations by any physical laws or limitations.
If consciousness is independent of physical processes, then why did I completely lose consciousness for several minutes after getting some bloodwork done? If a simple drop in blood pressure can completely eliminate consciousness, how can you say that consciousness is independent of physical matter?

The facts are not on your side.
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Old 05-27-2023, 12:47 PM
 
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good insight.
and even in the West, many paths recognize that Divinity is both within (immanent) and out there (transcendent)
This is true. It is not often recognized as the concept of God as something other than and distant from the self has become so established with the term God. Those who understand the Advaitic concept of Divinity within recognize it in all religions.
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Old 05-27-2023, 12:58 PM
 
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If consciousness is independent of physical processes, then why did I completely lose consciousness for several minutes after getting some bloodwork done? If a simple drop in blood pressure can completely eliminate consciousness, how can you say that consciousness is independent of physical matter?

The facts are not on your side.
The "delayed playback" of our consciousness (what we experience of it) is definitely affected by what happens to the transceiver (brain), but that has nothing to do with our REAL Self at the level of quanta. As the mediator and only source of contact with our REAL Self, anything that happens to the brain will affect our ability to interact at the macro level.
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Old 05-27-2023, 04:36 PM
 
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The "delayed playback" of our consciousness (what we experience of it) is definitely affected by what happens to the transceiver (brain), but that has nothing to do with our REAL Self at the level of quanta. As the mediator and only source of contact with our REAL Self, anything that happens to the brain will affect our ability to interact at the macro level.
Where do you get this stuff? Deepak Chopra?
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Old 05-27-2023, 06:33 PM
 
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The "delayed playback" of our consciousness (what we experience of it) is definitely affected by what happens to the transceiver (brain), but that has nothing to do with our REAL Self at the level of quanta. As the mediator and only source of contact with our REAL Self, anything that happens to the brain will affect our ability to interact at the macro level.
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Where do you get this stuff? Deepak Chopra?
If we are talking about the level of acquired scientific knowledge, Deepak Chopra should be using MY knowledge to justify his "deepities," not the other way around, IMO.
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