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Old 05-10-2023, 08:28 AM
 
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It seems that you have proprietary definition of the term "knowledge".

It is perfectly fine. There is no law prohibiting you from defining and using terms the way you want, but it does blocks those who choose to use common and agreed upon terminology from understanding what is it that you want to say.
This is true. Not all knowledge is available to everyone in equal measure. Some take more effort and preparedness to gain the knowledge.
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Old 05-10-2023, 08:29 AM
 
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He's as subjective as anyone else that posts on this forum. I have no real reason to believe any of you are real.
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Old 05-10-2023, 08:30 AM
 
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He's as subjective as anyone else that posts on this forum. I have no real reason to believe any of you are real.
This thought occurred to me as well
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Old 05-10-2023, 09:22 AM
 
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This is absolutely correct. He is in the hearts of those who seek him. The knowledge of Divinity creates a distinct space in the mind, jus as knowledge of mathematics, or Shakesper’s sonnets make a distinct space in the mind, and you know that you know it. Real or unreal, objective or subjective are wrong connotations of knowledge. You are ignorant until you know it, once you know it you are no longer ignorant. That is the reality.

Here's the reality, cb:


"God" is as real as you want him to be. A person cannot make God manifest himself outside of their hearts and minds so God is stuck inside each individual willing to allow him in there. He can give comfort to a troubled heart and peace to a troubled mind but he cannot cure you of cancer no matter how hard you pray for it to be so.



Hindus' Vishnu and his avatar son-god, Krishna are every bit as real to Hindus as Yahweh and his avatar son-god Jesus are to Christians just as Mickey-Mouse and his avatar son-god son, Mickey Jr. are every bit as real to Mickey-Mousers who worship at the altar of Disneyland. Nobody has a patent on "My god is real" because no god among the thousands of gods who have ever existed has ever manifested itself in any way discernible outside the minds and hearts of their worshipers.


It's a free country. You have bit a right to worship Yahweh and his avatar son-god Jesus as I have to worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster and his avatar sauce-god, Ragu.



I might add I think I get more satisfaction than you do because I just love Ragu on top of Spaghetti.




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Old 05-10-2023, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No it is ignorance. We are all born with ignorance, which is a fact. It is with knowledge that we lose the ignorance. It is not belief, it is trusting the knowledge, trusting oneself. Rudeness has nothing to do with anything that is being discussed.
Accusing other people of ignorance is rude.
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Old 05-10-2023, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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it is more than just "belief" once a person experiences it.
you don't "believe" you have been to Thailand. You "know" you have been to Thailand.
a person doesn't believe they dance the bolero. They know they dance the bolero.
I would suggest that you stop attempting to use analogies.
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Old 05-10-2023, 09:43 AM
 
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Accusing other people of ignorance is rude.
I agree.
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Old 05-10-2023, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I agree.
Saying you agree means nothing.
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Old 05-10-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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It seems that no two people agree on the definition of “God” in the first place. Which just supports my belief that “God” is imaginary and not real.
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Old 05-10-2023, 11:32 AM
 
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It seems that no two people agree on the definition of “God” in the first place. Which just supports my belief that “God” is imaginary and not real.

Of course God is imaginary. When did you ever see him save an innocent child from an oncoming auto that was going to flatten him, or from burning up in a 20-story fire or saving 50,000 innocent children from being swept into the ocean by a 100-foot tsunami?


God doesn't answer prayers, he doesn't help anybody, he doesn't manifest in any way, shape or form in the real world. But hey, it's a free country. People are free to worship as many imaginary beings as their hearts desire.
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