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You might actually be able to justify murdering a sentient being like a carrot, but you couldn't possible justify murdering sentient beings like trees and rocks just so you can have a McMansion or a cell phone.
Actually, no. You are conscious only because chemicals interact with highly specialized biological cells in your brain.
I can take any number of actions to impede the chemical process and/or damage or destroy the highly specialized biological cells in your brain and you would no longer be conscious.
I suppose that makes me a god-thing.
No, you would just be interfering with the operation of the "cell phone" you are interacting with the "caller" on. The "caller" is NOT in the "cell phone."
You might actually be able to justify murdering a sentient being like a carrot, but you couldn't possible justify murdering sentient beings like trees and rocks just so you can have a McMansion or a cell phone.
Actually, no. You are conscious only because chemicals interact with highly specialized biological cells in your brain.
I can take any number of actions to impede the chemical process and/or damage or destroy the highly specialized biological cells in your brain and you would no longer be conscious.
I suppose that makes me a god-thing.
I think people are talking about qualia. The thing that chemical reaction causes.
You might actually be able to justify murdering a sentient being like a carrot, but you couldn't possible justify murdering sentient beings like trees and rocks just so you can have a McMansion or a cell phone.
Actually, no. You are conscious only because chemicals interact with highly specialized biological cells in your brain.
I can take any number of actions to impede the chemical process and/or damage or destroy the highly specialized biological cells in your brain and you would no longer be conscious.
I suppose that makes me a god-thing.
I am deeply sorry, but you did not understand, what was said.
I'll just one more time and bow out..
On the Nature side, everything is conscious AS ITS FUNCTION ONLY. Where does it say that rock is sentient?
Rock is conscious as rock. Carrot, if you like them, is conscious as carrot. Dog is conscious as dog.
As of the 2nd part of your statement.... Brain activity is manifestation of mental, psychic and noetic processes in the mental, psychic and noetic atmospheres of a human. Of course, this is wild and foreign to you, so I respectfully bow out. To each of his own.
I think people are talking about qualia. The thing that chemical reaction causes.
No. People are talking about processes, that cause chemical reactions. Brain is like a fine "computer" responding, in its functions, that can be observed as say electric current changes, to its operator actions.
Say, brain of a born idiot, that has no consciousness in that particular manifestation, as The Light of Intelligence is shut down for him, is just like that computer on stand by. Idling.
L8t, it's the matter of the concept of the world. You are standing on materialistic concept foundation and will never understand, what I am saying, as my concept is not.
You might actually be able to justify murdering a sentient being like a carrot, but you couldn't possible justify murdering sentient beings like trees and rocks just so you can have a McMansion or a cell phone.
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Last but not least
You do know difference between being sentient, conscious and Self-conscious? Being sentient does not mean being conscious and definitely not being Self-conscious.
I think people are talking about qualia. The thing that chemical reaction causes.
Even more fundamental than that. What illumines qualia? Taken to its deepest level what illumines the sense of "I"? That unchanging sense of being regardless of changes to body and mind across decades, across an entire life and still "I" remains constant regardless of qualia/raw experience.
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That is not known, as in "The Hard Problem of Consciousness".
No, the hard problem of consciousness is how and why do we experience things. All the evidence so far points to consciousness being a product of the brain, from neuroscience to medicine to neural networks.
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Originally Posted by JustASimpleGuy
Consciousness eludes scientific explanation.
It also eludes religious and spiritual explanation.
I see, hear, smell, touch and taste, therefore I Am.
I think, therefore I Am.
I experience what I think, therefore I Am.
I Am.
I. Silence
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