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One question: If you don't believe in God, then what year is it?
Ponder that for a bit.
I'll give you a hint - We're 2009 years down the road for a reason.
This post illustrates exactly how primitive some humans minds are. It astounds me that some people lack basic critical thinking skills.
The thing is, is AeroGuyDC views his argument as bulletproof. And a logical argument will not convince him otherwise. How do you lift the veil from their eyes?
First source since you clearly copy and pasted that and second BS, on all that. It was founded on Christian principals, like it or not. They didn't state a specific religion because they saw the folly in requiring a specific religion. The freedom to practice religion is as important a freedom as any as you'll never have a society that oppresses or requires religion that's stable.
The facts disagree with you. According to the Treaty of Tripoli the United States was in no way founded on religion, specifically the Christian religion. Treaty of Tripoli
One question: If you don't believe in God, then what year is it?
Ponder that for a bit.
I'll give you a hint - We're 2009 years down the road for a reason.
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Originally Posted by Fred314X
I see you started a whole thread based on this. It's 2009 only because we use the Julian calendar in this country. There are plenty of other--and older--calendars in use around the world. You're setting the calendar of your choice as some kind of default, which it is not. It's just the one that happens to be in use around here.
Exactly! We have.....
Mayan calendars. Japanese Shinto calendars. Inuit calendars. North American Indian calendars.
It's no wonder that, when I was about 25, I bolted from organized religion. This type of subjective reasoning is typical of impressionable young minds of 10 to 12-year olds, but surely you, as an adult, don't believe that just because Western civilization (by no means the only one on the planet!) adopted a particular number system as a reference point, that therefore there's a God? Don't you think that the rampant Catholic Church might have had a hand in this? Surely you're not that gullible...
But then again, that's exactly why I bolted from silly religion Some people are easily swayed.
First source since you clearly copy and pasted that and second BS, on all that. It was founded on Christian principals, like it or not...
Whoa!
NO. IT. WASN'T.
The United States, despite your pastor's exhortations from his suburban mega-church pulpit, was NOT founded upon "Christian Principles."
NO historian would support you on that point. The USA was founded upon the principles of the Enlightenment. This is a DEIST point of view. NOT Christian.
The United States, despite your pastor's exhortations from his suburban mega-church pulpit, was NOT founded upon "Christian Principles."
NO historian would support you on that point. The USA was founded upon the principles of the Enlightenment. This is a DEIST point of view. NOT Christian.
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King James of Scotland, who came to power in 1603, called the Hampton Court Conference in order to work out a compromise with English Puritans and to unite the feuding religious factions. The outcome was the commissioning of a new authorized version of the Bible (published in 1611) that would satisfy all parties; the version became known as the King James Bible. Much of the language used hearkens back to Tyndale's translation. This new Bible made Tyndale's words central to Protestantism in the English-speaking world thereafter.
Those Puritans who were not satisfied with the compromise (they accepted the new translation, but could not accept the structure of the Anglican Church) left England, settling in the American colonies but bringing with them the King James version of the Bible. Its language -- and with it the words and ideas of Wycliffe, Tyndale, Cranmer, and the other pioneering translators of Scripture -- would be woven into the fabric of the new nation.
You know where you went wrong, it was assuming you had the final answer. Our nation and it's laws are deeply routed in Christianity. If it was founded on Islamic belief's Sharia law would be the "norm". Despite what wiki and your "god like" atheist leader says.
The facts disagree with you. According to the Treaty of Tripoli the United States was in no way founded on religion, specifically the Christian religion. Treaty of Tripoli
I agree there is no est. of religion. But it would be ignorant to think it's laws are not founded on the principals of Christianity. The folly was thinking establishing any religion or theocracy would be successful, they knew to have a peaceful society people needed the freedom to worship whatever they like, including science.
I agree there is no est. of religion. But it would be ignorant to think it's laws are not founded on the principals of Christianity. The folly was thinking establishing any religion or theocracy would be successful, they knew to have a peaceful society people needed the freedom to worship whatever they like, including science.
Who the heck worships science? What a strange statement!
I agree there is no est. of religion. But it would be ignorant to think it's laws are not founded on the principals of Christianity. The folly was thinking establishing any religion or theocracy would be successful, they knew to have a peaceful society people needed the freedom to worship whatever they like, including science.
The principles of Christianity don't all promote productive morality though. While it prohibits actions like murder and theft, it also advocates other actions like slavery(Luke 12:45-48, Colossians 4:1, 1 Timothy 6:1-3) and killing unbelievers(the Parable of Ten Pounds-Luke 19:12-27).
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