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Old 12-16-2023, 11:40 AM
 
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I don't worship any religion, doctrine, dogma, or church.

I worship Jesus Christ.

And no religion, dogma, doctrine or church can stand in my way.

So you worship a human?

 
Old 12-16-2023, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So you worship a human?
Is that a sincere question based upon supposition, or fact?
 
Old 12-16-2023, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Is that a sincere question based upon supposition, or fact?
Why is that not a reasonable question? [And I ask that as not being a fan of the poster who asked it]
 
Old 12-16-2023, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Why is that not a reasonable question? [And I ask that as not being a fan of the poster who asked it]
I don't see how the question follows from the post the question responds to. He says he worships Jesus ... he doesn't in any way say that Jesus is or isn't human. It's like me saying "I like buttered toast" and someone asking, "so you like organic bread made of spelt?"
 
Old 12-16-2023, 01:45 PM
 
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Is that a sincere question based upon supposition, or fact?
Fact?
Isn’t that exactly what we are trying to find?
Was Jesus a human or God? You tell me the “fact.”
 
Old 12-16-2023, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Fact?
Isn’t that exactly what we are trying to find?
Was Jesus a human or God? You tell me the “fact.”
I must have misunderstood the original question. Wether the doctrine of the Trinity has contributed to a decline in Christianity ( whatever that means)

I merely stated my truth, that doctrine, dogma, religion etc is not the object of my worship.

I suspect your question regarding Christ's Divinity is for one of the other multitude of threads debating that topic.
 
Old 12-16-2023, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I don't see how the question follows from the post the question responds to. He says he worships Jesus ... he doesn't in any way say that Jesus is or isn't human. It's like me saying "I like buttered toast" and someone asking, "so you like organic bread made of spelt?"
I still think it's a legit question.
 
Old 12-16-2023, 05:07 PM
 
Location: NSW
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So you worship a human?
The whole concept of the Trinity is that Jesus Christ is both God and man in one, and that the Son is equal to the Father etc. (Non-Trinitarian groups don’t believe in this concept)
There are plenty of Christians who claim that they are not part of any church group , or any organized religion per se.
It’s not an unusual claim or explanation given.
Some Christians claim that being a Christian is not in fact even a religion, it’s then that they don’t even understand what the dictionary definitions of a religion is.
 
Old 12-16-2023, 07:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Oakback View Post
I don't worship any religion, doctrine, dogma, or church.

I worship Jesus Christ.

And no religion, dogma, doctrine or church can stand in my way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoCardinals View Post
So you worship a human?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oakback View Post
Is that a sincere question based upon supposition, or fact?
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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
Why is that not a reasonable question? [And I ask that as not being a fan of the poster who asked it]
It is not reasonable because for a Christian Jesus came to reveal and demonstrate the true nature of God to our ancestors who were misguided in their beliefs because the scriptures failed to achieve their intent. If they had, Jesus would not have been necessary. It is a matter of personal preference how you answer the disingenuous question. He is worshiping the God revealed and represented BY Jesus (whatever He believes is the actual status involved), IMO.

Hebrews 8:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

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Old 12-16-2023, 07:27 PM
 
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I must have misunderstood the original question. Wether the doctrine of the Trinity has contributed to a decline in Christianity ( whatever that means)

I merely stated my truth, that doctrine, dogma, religion etc is not the object of my worship.

I suspect your question regarding Christ's Divinity is for one of the other multitude of threads debating that topic.

You said, you worship Jesus.

What does that mean?

How do you know who and what is Jesus if we take religion, Bible and History out of it?
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