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Old 12-15-2023, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Did Adam have a belly button?
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Did Adam have a belly button?
Lol, yeah.

Or why does anyone have wisdom teeth, that often need to be taken out (and are less common these days, indicating evolution), if God spontaneously snapped modern humanity into existence?

Or why do over 60% of humans need corrective lenses? All-perfect God makes design flaws and defects in his creations on purpose, I guess?
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Of course I believe the narrative of Scripture. What scholars accept concerning the surrounding cultures, I don't accept. As we know, Jesus took Scripture as is, and I trust Him.
Nice flounce. You dodged the issue.

Your "narrative of Scripture" says Terah was chief priest for god El Shaddai in Ur.

El Shaddai was also part of the Ugarit pantheon, as was Yahweh and Asherah.

I can't wait to see your face when they find the pre-756 BCE E or P texts that say Enki, Ningishiddza and Ninhursag created humans.

I'll keep your crow pie nice and warm in the oven.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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the need of having a sense of reassurance when your own faith is shallow and your are not sure. These kinda OP's pop up once in a while - so nothing surprising.
If I needed reassurance (which I don't) I'd confer with a respected personal source rather than an anonymous poster on C-D, particularly one who holds views that are contrary to my beliefs anyway.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:57 PM
 
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If I needed reassurance (which I don't) I'd confer with a respected personal source rather than an anonymous poster on C-D, particularly one who holds views that are contrary to my beliefs anyway.

What did Jewish Historians write about Jesus? Did he exist?
Somebody somewhere had to note, make a noise and write in the Jewish population that there is a man out there who is raising the dead and breathing life into clay birds.
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Old 12-15-2023, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Officially I would say I don't know, but I imagine most the water came from within the earth's crust.
Poor fool. Those who live by the lies in the KJV get hammered by them.

There was no flood.

Genesis 6:17
וַאֲנִ י
u·ani
and·I

הִ נְ נִ י
en·ni
behold·me!

מֵ בִ יא
mbia
bringing

הַ מַּ בּוּל
e·mbul
the·deluge-of

מַ יִ ם
mim
waters

The only correct translation is "deluge" which is not a flood. It was a tsunami caused by the impact of a carbonaceous asteroid with a few miles in diameter.

At low trajectory that asteroid was severely oblated and partially fractured. The cast-off landed in across southern Canada and the US starting massive wild-fires.

The leading edge of the shockwave front would have extended 12-20 miles at a temperature of 5,000°F to 12,000°F.

It could impact 100 miles north of the Western Antarctic Ice Sheet and cause the flash-melting of the Ice Sheet without affecting the 1.2 Million year old Eastern Ice Sheet.

Note that the Western Ice Sheet is only 8,000 years old having started to reform circa 6,000 BCE.

The resulting tsunami inundated coastal areas.

A prominent spike in platinum is documented in a Wonderkrater sample (5614) with a mean date of 12 744 cal yr BP using a Bayesian model, preceding the onset of the YD cooling event. The YD platinum spike at Wonderkrater is the first to be observed in Africa in the southern hemisphere, supplementing new discoveries from Patagonia in South America, in addition to more than 25 sites with such platinum anomalies in the northern hemisphere. The observations from South Africa serve to strengthen ongoing assessments of the controversial YD Impact Hypothesis, whereby it is proposed that a meteorite or cometary impact contributed to a decline in temperature, associated inter alia with dispersion of atmospheric dust, mammalian extinctions and cultural changes.

What you fail to understand is that if there was flood, then Noah and his family die.

Why?

There's a reason why they call it salt-water.

It has various salts in solution.

Those salts would have been absorbed into the soil rendering it infertile for decades, maybe even centuries.

Noah would nothing to eat and neither would any of the animals.

So they all die.

The end.
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:01 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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??
Why you must be not like this?
Because it's a dead end and annoying on top of it.
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:05 PM
 
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Because it's a dead end and annoying on top of it.
So don't read it.
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:33 PM
 
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Awesome!
Jesus is God because his father is God. The species and kind don’t change. Just like a human’s son is always a human. A lion’s son is always a lion, etc.

Now,
Jesus was asked “When will the last hour arrive?”
And he said, “I don’t know”.

How can a God not know something?
This is such an important event in Abrahamic faiths and the believe is, ONLY AND ONLY AND ONLY, God knows when will it arrive?

For Jesus to be God, he MUST know this, otherwise he ain’t no God.


The second possibility is that Jesus lied.
If God lies, then he ain’t no God either - God is not a liar.

Well, it's possible when Jesus became human, He became just like Adam. So He laid down His glory and put on flesh. That possibly could be why He doesn't know when He will come back, but perhaps there is more to it.


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What is god made of?
If something, who or what created that something?
If not, if your god is immaterial, how does that work?

How does your god just know everything?
How and where does it store this knowledge?

If your god invented everything, what was it before it created the law of identity?

God's name, Yahweh, means "He Is" or "He Will Be". So He has no beginning nor end. He just Is. I don't know what He is made of, but Scripture tells us God is spirit. So if we know what spirit is made of, perhaps we could begin to understand what makes up God. I don't know how He knows everything, and He also sees everything.


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Why would I want to know about your understanding about G-d when I have my own? What makes yours any better?
I don't know. Can't hurt to have discussion.


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What does full presence mean?

His unfiltered presence.



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Did Adam have a belly button?

Can't say.


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Nice flounce. You dodged the issue.

Your "narrative of Scripture" says Terah was chief priest for god El Shaddai in Ur.

El Shaddai was also part of the Ugarit pantheon, as was Yahweh and Asherah.

I can't wait to see your face when they find the pre-756 BCE E or P texts that say Enki, Ningishiddza and Ninhursag created humans.

I'll keep your crow pie nice and warm in the oven.

Abraham's father Terah?
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Old 12-15-2023, 03:44 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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So don't read it.
Back at ya.
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