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View Poll Results: Should NY force highway Chic Fil A's to remain open?
Yes, travelers need all options on Sundays 5 16.67%
No, Chic Fil A has freedoms 23 76.67%
Undecided 2 6.67%
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Old 12-28-2023, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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In-And-Out Burger has, or at least had, a similar cult following, which I never understood. I saw them as just okay sliders, maybe a notch above in terms of ingredient quality but nothing THAT special. It causes me to suspect that most people are bored and seek any sort of novelty, however trivial.
Chik-fil-a offers a good chicken sandwich, with good sides in a friendly, efficient manner. Plus, they are family-focused in a woke society. Obviously, that appeals to people. The locations in my community are hugely popular, and have been for years.

 
Old 12-28-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Chik-fil-a offers a good chicken sandwich, with good sides in a friendly, efficient manner. Plus, they are family-focused in a woke society. Obviously, that appeals to people. The locations in my community are hugely popular, and have been for years.
I'm gay, and I do patronize CFA. Why -- best fast food IMO. But every time I go in -- other than usually being more courteous than workers in many other fast food places -- I don't see anything that's any more "family focused" than any other fast food place.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 09:59 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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This thread is probably better-suited for the politics forum, but for what it's worth as a liberal, atheist resident of NY State, I enjoy Chick-Fil-A from time to time, and I support their right to archaically observe the Sabbath, or whatever. At the same time, I don't mind them feeling the pinch from NY, because their views on LGBTQ rights are as outdated as their insistence on not serving fried chicken on Sundays. So, I'm ambivalent, but ultimately I side with 'religious freedom' and the upholding of the actual contractual language
 
Old 12-28-2023, 10:07 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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https://apnews.com/article/new-york-...a31429bf66184b

I'm in Michigan, but the state of New York is proposing a bill to force businesses to stay open 7 days a week if they are in the state's highway rest stop systems. They say that this does not target Chic-Fil-A, but apparently Chic-Fil-A is the only company in that situation that does not remain open 7 days a week and in the official literature put out in favor of the bill Chic Fil A is mentioned specifically by name.

Chic-Fil-A argues that they should be closed on "Sundays so employees can enjoy time with their families and “worship if they choose.""

The congress member who is proposing this bill, Tony Simone, to force Chic-Fil-A to be open on Sundays at the highway stops says his bill is about “Look, if you want to eat fried chicken while traveling over the holidays, then Chick-fil-A should be open on Sundays."


If Chic-Fil-A pays the required rent, who cares? I think its a 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion that a private business has the right to close on Sundays for family and or worship time. I'd imagine that their employees love having a consistent day off every week whether for religion or the NFL football games.

Using Tony Simone's logic, if the government can force a business to be open on Sundays, can we force the government to be open on Sundays too like the Postal Service, Secretary of State's Office, Town Hall, Social Security Services, etc..?

I'm just really dismayed and disappointed that a politician would think its okay to infringe upon a private's business practice of offering time off for family and or worship. I'm a vegetarian so I don't even use them.

The news article says the founder of the company opposed gay marriage so many people don't like him, which is not okay of him, but two wrongs don't make a right.
Re: your third-last paragraph, I see no reason not to go in that direction as society becomes increasingly secular over coming years/decades. Sunday's just another day. Of course, four-day workweeks have made headway in comparatively secular European societies. I am 100% in favor of the stereotypical European attitude towards work-life balance, so any future debates regarding availability of government services on Sundays would hopefully center on employee rights issues rather than religious issues. But it's the US, and 'the great die-off of the faithful' (to put it rather harshly) is going to take a long time, from the perspective of a currently-existing atheist who'd like to see accelerated progress on these issues
 
Old 12-28-2023, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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This thread is probably better-suited for the politics forum, but for what it's worth as a liberal, atheist resident of NY State, I enjoy Chick-Fil-A from time to time, and I support their right to archaically observe the Sabbath, or whatever. At the same time, I don't mind them feeling the pinch from NY, because their views on LGBTQ rights are as outdated as their insistence on not serving fried chicken on Sundays. So, I'm ambivalent, but ultimately I side with 'religious freedom' and the upholding of the actual contractual language
Frankly, I think part of their anti-gay stance is a position that they feel feeds into their advertising modus operandi. Because I'll tell you something -- there are quite a few gay people working at CFA.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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Because I'll tell you something -- there are quite a few gay people working at CFA.
It's true, and not a secret. During my brief stint at CFA, one of my customer-facing co-workers was of the extremely flamboyant and lispy variety, and no one ever mistreated him or gave him a hard time to my knowledge. That's to say nothing of the not as obvious element.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I'm gay, and I do patronize CFA. Why -- best fast food IMO. But every time I go in -- other than usually being more courteous than workers in many other fast food places -- I don't see anything that's any more "family focused" than any other fast food place.
My fave pizza place--not a chain--is closed on Sundays "for family day" as per the sign on their door. That's real because it's actually owned by a family.

Which alas, I know so many of you outside of NJ don't ever get to experience.

I will have to try one of these mysterious chicken sandwiches one of these days.
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Old 12-28-2023, 03:29 PM
 
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In-And-Out Burger has, or at least had, a similar cult following, which I never understood. I saw them as just okay sliders, maybe a notch above in terms of ingredient quality but nothing THAT special. It causes me to suspect that most people are bored and seek any sort of novelty, however trivial.
I think In-and-Out Burger is rather good... for what it is. And what it is, is assembly-line food. There's a certain ceiling for such things. So, sure, I like it (or, I've liked it the couple times I've had it). But that cult-like frenzy over it is a classic example of marketing triumphing over reason. Honestly, I've never had a fast food with a cult following (also: Popeyes, Five Guys, etc. - never tried Chik-fil-A) that warranted it.

I think the In-and-Out following is partly explained by the minimalist actual menu and the vast 'secret' menu.

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Originally Posted by Horn of ‘83 View Post
Chik-fil-a offers a good chicken sandwich, with good sides in a friendly, efficient manner. Plus, they are family-focused in a woke society. Obviously, that appeals to people. The locations in my community are hugely popular, and have been for years.
I'm sure the fact that you've just proclaimed that Chik-fil-A is woke to the importance of family is lost on you.

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Originally Posted by phetaroi View Post
I'm gay, and I do patronize CFA. Why -- best fast food IMO. But every time I go in -- other than usually being more courteous than workers in many other fast food places -- I don't see anything that's any more "family focused" than any other fast food place.
But they're closed on Sundays! So legions of families are sitting around saying "Hey, since our favorite chicken place isn't open today, I guess we'll go to church instead". Or maybe 'family focused' is just code for 'supporting anti-gay discrimination'.
 
Old 12-28-2023, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Honestly, I've never had a fast food with a cult following (also: Popeyes, Five Guys, etc. - never tried Chik-fil-A) that warranted it.
Oh yeah, Five Guys ... we have one of those here. I can see that part of it is marketing ... their walls are plastered with favorable reviews and proclamations from fans. It's pretty good though. Alas, however, the full experience includes fries and a shake and it's too much of a temptation for my wife and I, when both of us are in a life-and-death struggle with our waistlines. We are winning ... but would stop winning if we returned to places like Five Guys on a regular basis. Indeed, I probably gain a pound or two just looking at the place as I drive by ...
 
Old 12-28-2023, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Just to make sure that everyone realizes one factor of the bill in question:

The bill in question does not affect any current Chick-fil-A restaurants, and applies only to future contracts for concessions at transportation facilities "owned by the state and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey".
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