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Old 02-20-2024, 12:30 PM
 
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Hey guys, the topic is "things you do not know about Jesus."
back to the topic

another thing you do not know about Jesus is

Allah questioned Jesus about something

of course Allah knew the answer, so what was the point from the question!

i think the point is the current situtions for the Christians believes.


And when Allah saith:
O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?

he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right.
If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it.
Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind.
Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?

I spake unto them only that which Thou commandedst me, (saying):
Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.
I was a witness of them while I dwelt among them,
and when Thou tookest me Thou wast the Watcher over them.
Thou art Witness over all things.

If Thou punish them, lo! they are Thy slaves,
and if Thou forgive them
Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Mighty, the Wise.
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Old 02-21-2024, 10:03 AM
 
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And he had a chiseled body of Christ. From all those Pontius Pilates, and CrossFit. And planks, lol.

Now here's a Jesus I can get behind Arnold Schwarzenegger eat your heart out!



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Old 02-21-2024, 10:08 AM
 
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and he had a chiseled body of christ. From all those pontius pilates, and crossfit. And planks, lol.
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Old 02-24-2024, 07:44 AM
 
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another thing you do not know about Jesus is

When the disciples said:
O Isa son of Marium! will your Lord consent to send down to us food from heaven?
He said: Be careful of (your duty to) Allah if you are believers.
They said: We desire that we should eat of it and that our hearts should be at rest,
and that we may know that you have indeed spoken the truth to us
and that we may be of the witnesses to it.

Isa the son of Marium said:
O Allah, our Lord!
send down to us food from heaven which should be to us an ever-recurring happiness, to the first of us and to the last of us,
and a sign from Thee, and grant us means of subsistence,
and Thou art the best of the Providers.

Allah said: Surely I will send it down to you,
but whoever shall disbelieve afterwards from among you,
surely I will chastise him with a chastisement with which I will not chastise, anyone among the nations.
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Old 02-24-2024, 10:50 AM
 
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when someone commit a sin between him and his creator and no others are involved,.... what i mean is he did not attack others or steal .. etc
then all what he needs to have this sin removed are [indent]1- ask Allah forgiveness
2- repent
3- feel sorry
4- the intention to not repeate it again
5- if he did repeate it then he must repeate the above steps
So Allah doesn't require punishment, or justice?

We'd call a human judge that did not require punishment for justice to be unjust. So is Allah unjust?
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Old 02-26-2024, 03:21 PM
 
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So Allah doesn't require punishment, or justice?

We'd call a human judge that did not require punishment for justice to be unjust. So is Allah unjust?
you mean when a slave of Allah commits a sin just between him and his Creator
and no other was hurted or attackd

for example he drunk booze

then he asked Allah to forgive him and Allah forgave him

is this unjust !!
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Old 02-27-2024, 10:32 AM
 
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you mean when a slave of Allah commits a sin just between him and his Creator
and no other was hurted or attackd

for example he drunk booze

then he asked Allah to forgive him and Allah forgave him

is this unjust !!
If he broke your god's law, and he simply waives it off with no punishment, it's unjust.
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:18 AM
 
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If he broke your god's law, and he simply waives it off with no punishment, it's unjust.
within the law of Allah
if a sinner ask Allah forgiveness
Allah forgive him

but if the sinner is arrogant
and does not ask Allah forgiveness then there is punishment

And whoever does evil or acts unjustly to his soul,
then asks forgiveness of Allah
he shall find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

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And Allah would not punish them while you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) are amongst them,
nor will He punish them while they seek (Allah's) Forgiveness

Last edited by truth_teller; 02-28-2024 at 12:51 AM..
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:46 AM
 
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:51 AM
 
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within the law of Allah
if a sinner ask Allah forgiveness
Allah forgive him

but if the sinner is arrogant
and does not ask Allah forgiveness then there is punishment

And whoever does evil or acts unjustly to his soul,
then asks forgiveness of Allah
he shall find Allah Forgiving, Merciful.

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And Allah would not punish them while you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) are amongst them,
nor will He punish them while they seek (Allah's) Forgiveness
That sounds unjust. And corrupt.
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