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Old 03-13-2024, 08:58 AM
 
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No. He won't. No Scripture remotely suggests that.

Why would we believe what Muhammed said about God?
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Actually, I think the failing is yours since you cannot see that Buddhism is the real right path.

See...anyone can make such a statement about their religion (and do).
the Christians and the Jews and all the world are supposed to follow and compliance to the
the Quran and the final messenger Mahammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.

notice that only Jews and Christians are mentioned
so what about other believes?

other believes do not have Holy Book from Allah

Jews and Christians have Holy Book from Allah

so those who have Holy Book from Allah must follow the final Messenger Mahammad

so those who do not have Holy Book from Allah are ought to


who can give proofs about his claims same way i did in this thread https://www.city-data.com/forum/reli...evidences.html

And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.
" These are their own desires.
Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), "Produce your proof if you are truthful."
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Old 03-13-2024, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Jesus' race has mild merit for debate, to argue certain specific points, but it's not nearly as important as the fact that He is God.

There is a flood of agenda online today attempting to teach all professing Christians that everything they were ever taught about God and the Bible is true BUT the fact that Jesus is God.

The notion that He is not God belongs to Judaism, Muslim, Unitarian and Atheist belief systems.

ALL non-Christian.
The notion that Jesus is not a god is also held by people like the JWs, and probably also the first Christians.
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Old 03-13-2024, 10:13 AM
 
Location: So Cal/AZ
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196:0.2 (2087.2) The human Jesus saw God as being holy, just, and great, as well as being true, beautiful, and good. All these attributes of divinity he focused in his mind as the “will of the Father in heaven.” Jesus’ God was at one and the same time “The Holy One of Israel” and “The living and loving Father in heaven.” The concept of God as a Father was not original with Jesus, but he exalted and elevated the idea into a sublime experience by achieving a new revelation of God and by proclaiming that every mortal creature is a child of this Father of love, a son of God.
https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...96-faith-jesus
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Old 03-14-2024, 07:33 AM
 
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the Christians and the Jews and all the world are supposed to follow and compliance to the
the Quran and the final messenger Mahammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)

The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad,
he who amongst the community of jews or Christians hears about me,
but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent
and dies in this state (of disbelief),
he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire.

notice that only Jews and Christians are mentioned
so what about other believes?

other believes do not have Holy Book from Allah

Jews and Christians have Holy Book from Allah

so those who have Holy Book from Allah must follow the final Messenger Mahammad
Why do you believe him? I've seen no indication from Scripture that we should.
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Old 03-14-2024, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Why do you believe him? I've seen no indication from Scripture that we should.
Let's see...you're communicating to a Muslim and you can't figure out why he isn't following your christian scriptures. Duh.
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Old 03-14-2024, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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A Christian - generally - is not suited for describing Mohamed, just as much as a Muslim isn't suited to describing Jesus. This thread is yet another exercise in futility.

Better to just agree to disagree, and "walk away from the table", then engage in all this pointless hand-wringing. How much better we'd all be (including on this forum) to seek common ground, than fuss with matters where we'll never agree. This forum gives a good opportunity for the former.

Last edited by Thoreau424; 03-14-2024 at 09:52 AM..
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Old 04-01-2024, 12:59 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The notion that Jesus is not a god is also held by people like the JWs, and probably also the first Christians.
There are a couple of apocryphal books excluded from the Bible, that say he survived his ordeal on the cross, and went on to spend the rest of his life teaching.
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Old 04-02-2024, 10:39 AM
 
Location: So Cal/AZ
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The Bestowals of Christ Michael

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...christ-michael
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Old 04-02-2024, 12:42 PM
 
Location: NSW
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There are a couple of apocryphal books excluded from the Bible, that say he survived his ordeal on the cross, and went on to spend the rest of his life teaching.
The rest of his life was only 40 days though.
How much teaching can you do in that space of time?
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Old 04-28-2024, 02:34 PM
 
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And they say: "The Most Gracious (Allah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children)
[as the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son ['Îsa (Jesus) عليه السلام],
and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels and others.)]."
Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins,
That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allah).
But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allah) as a slave.
Verily He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting.
And everyone of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).




Jesus Christ is Messiah


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tS6ZIuKBUk
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