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Old 03-01-2024, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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A pastor or elder who commits adultery is unqualified to serve in the role. That is an established fact. But there is nothing in the Bible that tells us that we should cut hands off or gouge eyes out for it.
You're right.

It does tell us that "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death" though.

Presumably, those were the words of God as spoken through whomever wrote Leviticus?
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Old 03-01-2024, 02:11 PM
 
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You're right.

It does tell us that "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death" though.

Presumably, those were the words of God as spoken through whomever wrote Leviticus?
Yes, that was a command given to people living under the Law in ancient Israel. And your point?
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I'm ok with those that can't understand the idea of context suggesting that.
Hence, a la carte christianity.
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yes, that was a command given to people living under the Law in ancient Israel. And your point?
And here you go again...preaching the bible...and then making exceptions you don't like.

Don't get me wrong. I support a la carte religion. But you gotta be honest about it. You gotta admit that you do it.
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Old 03-01-2024, 03:21 PM
 
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You're right.

It does tell us that "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death" though.

Presumably, those were the words of God as spoken through whomever wrote Leviticus?
Evangelicals tend to ignore the portions of the OT they don't like. They run Leviticus 18 up as a reason that being gay is a horrible sin, but ignore the prohibitions on clothes and food. That seems pretty hypocritical to me.

I am always disgusted by so called Christian leaders that violate basic rules then beg for forgiveness without any sanctions.
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Old 03-01-2024, 04:16 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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This is the thread title and the Opening Post:

Churches for gays

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Is there a Christian church that welcomes gays?
In order to help this person find a Christian church where gays are welcome and accepted, it seems counterproductive to waste time discussing whether the Bible indicates that homosexuality is a sin, whether the OT laws are being followed, or whether adultery is being ignored in churches.

Feel free to post any suggestions about churches that welcome gays, and conversely, those denominations that are known to disallow gay members.
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Old 03-02-2024, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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You're right.

It does tell us that "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, even with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and adulteress must be put to death" though.

Presumably, those were the words of God as spoken through whomever wrote Leviticus?
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Yes, that was a command given to people living under the Law in ancient Israel. And your point?
The 'point' made was that 'God" (as described by the ancient authors) - REGARDLESS as to whether the command was made for people living under the law in ancient Israel - is a brutal tyrant!! Or, does living under the so-called New Covenant given to Christianity somehow waive the abhorrent commands of the OT 'God' as though they never happened? Let us sweep that stuff under the carpet and never speak of it again? One more time, the God of the Old Testament is a tyrant!

Sorry, Mensa, I couldn't let that one slide without a response.
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Old 03-02-2024, 09:27 AM
 
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The 'point' made was that 'God" (as described by the ancient authors) - REGARDLESS as to whether the command was made for people living under the law in ancient Israel - is a brutal tyrant!! Or, does living under the so-called New Covenant given to Christianity somehow waive the abhorrent commands of the OT 'God' as though they never happened? Let us sweep that stuff under the carpet and never speak of it again? One more time, the God of the Old Testament is a tyrant!

Sorry, Mensa, I couldn't let that one slide without a response.
Couldn't help but get one more parting shot in, regardless of how silly it was, could you?

But to keep it on track, I've never once seen a Christian church that supports homosexuality. Never met anyone that actually went to one, or a Christian pastor that believed it. I'm not sure where one would find such a thing.
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Old 03-02-2024, 09:40 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Couldn't help but get one more parting shot in, regardless of how silly it was, could you?

But to keep it on track, I've never once seen a Christian church that supports homosexuality. Never met anyone that actually went to one, or a Christian pastor that believed it. I'm not sure where one would find such a thing.
Hmmm. Right here in the Charleston, WV area, the ELCA Lutheran church welcomes LGBT+ people, the Episcopal church does as well. There is a Presbyterian church within walking distance that has said publicly that they will do same sex marriages. Those are mainstream denominations. Of course, the UU church welcomes anybody, and there are a few independent churches that do as well.

For the OP, you might check for a congregation in one of those denominations.
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