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Did you read my last paragraph? I already anticipated answers like yours, but don't you find it rather odd that, for example, Mark and Luke found it important to them to both mention that the temple veil was torn but not that dead people came to life and marched into Jerusalem to be seen by many an the writer of John doesn't even mention ANY of this? The writer of Matthew mentions this right in the middle of his retelling of the events but Mark and Luke completely leaves this out. Dead people coming back to life is not an important piece of ANY story? Which reporter at any time in history you know would have left that kind of information out of their story?
The gospels were not written based on what the author thought was important, but what the spirit told them to write.
The mysteries of Sainthood are sprinkled throughout the NT, they are meant to be found and revealed as one's eyes are opened to everything being possible.
The Saints that rose are no different than Lazarus, they need not die again, they are risen, as Christ is risen and can come and go as the wind, working for the glory of God. They have the power of the Holy Spririt and have been seen and presented to those that ask, seek, and knock.
I have to admit that I'm completely unaware of any dead people coming back to life except in horror movies. Do you have any information or links to any incident you think is credible?
African Pastor Raised From the Dead Resurrection (http://www.born-again-christian.info/african.resurrection.htm - broken link)
Campbell34, I see the link is from a website called born again Christian info. Yes, it's an interesting story but in order for me to be convinced I would have to have a complete medical report from a modern hospital and evidence that rigor mortis had indeed taken place. There are many accounts of people who were thought to be dead that have woken up in the mortuary. Because this man was a pastor his experience was woven into a story of something miraculous with strong religious implications. I have no doubt that he and his family believe it really is a miracle and I don't think this looks like any kind of fraud or hoax. I think it's an unusual event that does happen from time to time and thankfully this man survived a grueling ordeal.
I guess the 1st followers of Jesus catered to Jews and non-Jews, so they specified their stories for each focus group.
Kinda like our modernday marketing strategies.
The gospels were not written based on what the author thought was important, but what the spirit told them to write.
I find every last fantasy story in the Bible to be more believable than this statement. Read influential historical documents throughout human history for proof that no writing like that is ever done without some serious personal intentions.
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The mysteries of Sainthood are sprinkled throughout the NT, they are meant to be found and revealed as one's eyes are opened to everything being possible.
Are you referring to yourself? If not, who has found the answers to those mysteries? If yes, then you are just one of many who believes they have a more direct line to God than others do.
In any case, the fact that my own eyes are indeed open to everything being possible is precisely why I know that your understanding of God and scripture comes from a personal place - not from the external deity that you contrive.
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The Saints that rose are no different than Lazarus, they need not die again, they are risen, as Christ is risen and can come and go as the wind, working for the glory of God. They have the power of the Holy Spririt and have been seen and presented to those that ask, seek, and knock.
I hope you don't think that comes from divine inspiration. That's Sunday School 101 - with a twist of inspirational-paperback flair.
I find every last fantasy story in the Bible to be more believable than this statement. Read influential historical documents throughout human history for proof that no writing like that is ever done without some serious personal intentions.
I'm glad you believe.
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Are you referring to yourself? If not, who has found the answers to those mysteries? If yes, then you are just one of many who believes they have a more direct line to God than others do.
Our line is only as good as our asking, seeking and calling.
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In any case, the fact that my own eyes are indeed open to everything being possible is precisely why I know that your understanding of God and scripture comes from a personal place - not from the external deity that you contrive.
How does one contrive that which has always been.
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I hope you don't think that comes from divine inspiration. That's Sunday School 101 - with a twist of inspirational-paperback flair.
That's funny, every Sunday school i ever attended, did not believe any of what i wrote. They don't believe we can overcome death, or that Lazarus still walks the earth, or that there were saints that rose the same day Jesus did, and still walk the earth.
It would be nice to find a Sunday school that believed all things were possible, but unfortunately the traditions of men, have not included the power of life.
That's so simple. You have a religious experience and attach it to something. That something becomes God.
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That's funny, every Sunday school i ever attended, did not believe any of what i wrote. They don't believe we can overcome death, or that Lazarus still walks the earth, or that there were saints that rose the same day Jesus did, and still walk the earth.
It would be nice to find a Sunday school that believed all things were possible, but unfortunately the traditions of men, have not included the power of life.
Well, really you said "risen again" and "come and go like the wind". I didn't take "walk the Earth" from that.
As for Sunday School - you should try a liberal evangelical one. I know of some that are part of churches that agree with you very much. I was raised in one, in fact.
I think Matthew is the odd one out and dare I say has been caught "bending" the truth a little in order to spice up the event.
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I guess the 1st followers of Jesus catered to Jews and non-Jews, so they specified their stories for each focus group.
