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I've always had a problem with this. Now, as a preface, let me just state that I do most definitely take issue with irresponsible use of any drug- be it marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, or Tylenol. Expanding upon that, I also tend to take issue with the frequent use of drugs with a high potential for addiction (heroin, morphine, cocaine, and to a lesser extent, cigarettes) because I see such behavior as inherently irresponsible; you know you will become addicted, and continue the habit.
However, I have always been informed that Christianity sees drugs in general (psyclobin mushrooms, marijuana, ect) as "evil". This has never sat well with me, because there is no differentiation between responsible and irresponsible use. A person consuming alcohol has a much, much higher chance of inflicting harm on themselves or someone else than someone smoking weed does, yet the Church speaks against marijuana more adamantly than it speaks against alcohol.
Is this just a publicity thing (Church attendance would probably take a dive if the Church outlawed alcohol...) or am I just missing something?
By the way, my apologies in advance if this is somewhat broken. It's late here, and I'm a bit tired. Wanted to get this out before bed though
I've always had a problem with this. Now, as a preface, let me just state that I do most definitely take issue with irresponsible use of any drug- be it marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, or Tylenol. Expanding upon that, I also tend to take issue with the frequent use of drugs with a high potential for addiction (heroin, morphine, cocaine, and to a lesser extent, cigarettes) because I see such behavior as inherently irresponsible; you know you will become addicted, and continue the habit.
However, I have always been informed that Christianity sees drugs in general (psyclobin mushrooms, marijuana, ect) as "evil". This has never sat well with me, because there is no differentiation between responsible and irresponsible use. A person consuming alcohol has a much, much higher chance of inflicting harm on themselves or someone else than someone smoking weed does, yet the Church speaks against marijuana more adamantly than it speaks against alcohol.
Is this just a publicity thing (Church attendance would probably take a dive if the Church outlawed alcohol...) or am I just missing something?
By the way, my apologies in advance if this is somewhat broken. It's late here, and I'm a bit tired. Wanted to get this out before bed though
Fundamentalist Christians (as well as some others ... I guess Christianity in general, any system that is largely about or involved with power, religious or not) is heavily invested in control.
Mushrooms, LCD and marijuana, for example, are potentially mind/consciousness expanding substances which can (potentially) assist one in liberating oneself from the "box" of conventional thinking and consensus "reality".
Now why would a controller want this?
And those who are controlled become controllers.
Other drugs such as cocaine, crack-cocaine, meth, etc., etc. do not assist one in expansion but they can contribute to dangerous and harmful behavior ... ie; anti-social behavior. Controllers don't much care for anti-social behavior.
I see nothing, nothing redemptive in such drugs whereas Mushrooms, LCD and marijuana, if used responsibly and skillfully, can be helpful along the path as long as one does not become dependent upon them as a spiritual tool to the point where they become an obstacle in ones evolution. And it takes a very discerning mind to evaluate this. Many (most?) people, especially when young (whether in years or spiritual and intellectual maturity) do not have that kind of discernment.
Alcohol is not only socially acceptable but is a dulling and numbing substance that does absolutely nothing to advance the path of liberation.
And it contributes to some of the most vial and dangerous and harmful behavior ... as when a drunk drives.
Marijuana does not feed or exacerbate anger, violence, aggression, general idiocy, etc.
How many drunks kill people every year?
Lordy, don't get me started.
I'm in Santa Cruz. It could be worse.
You forgot "food". Food can be an addictive killer as well, and I've seen plenty of Christians (and non) who could stand to lose half their body weight. No one seems to ever preach about the personal responsibility of maintaining a healthy body. If you truly believe your body is a temple and a gift from God, how can you fill it with chips, fast food, candy, etc., clog your arteries and pack on the pounds?
You forgot "food". Food can be an addictive killer as well, and I've seen plenty of Christians (and non) who could stand to lose half their body weight.
I agree but food, unlike chemical drugs, doesn't make you crave more food. The sad thing is that people can become addicted to anything (or anyone).
Originally Posted by denverianI agree but food, unlike chemical drugs, doesn't make you crave more food.
So would LSD be a chemical drug? How about nicotine? I ask because LSD is artificially manufactured and is non-addictive, whereas nicotine is produced naturally by tobacco plants, and is highly addictive.
So would LSD be a chemical drug? How about nicotine? I ask because LSD is artificially manufactured and is non-addictive, whereas nicotine is produced naturally by tobacco plants, and is highly addictive.
I honestly don't know.
When it comes to drugs I'm not that curious. But I do know that I don't smoke because it made me cough out my lungs every time my dad smoked in the car.
Originally Posted by CirbrynI honestly don't know.
When it comes to drugs I'm not that curious. But I do know that I don't smoke because it made me cough out my lungs every time my dad smoked in the car.
OK. I guess the point I'm making is that your earlier division of drugs into "chemical" and "herbal" categories isn't valid. All drugs are chemicals.
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As long as it is herbal.
The sad thing is that people can become addicted to anything (or anyone).
But I do know that I don't smoke because it made me cough out my lungs every time my dad smoked in the car.
