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Old 06-26-2008, 10:31 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Catonsville, MD
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Five years ago this week, I was at an orphanage in Russia with my husband while we were in the process of adopting our now nearly 6 year old daughter. If close-minded people could visit this orphanage (or the thousands of other orphanages around the world as well as the foster homes here in this country,) they would see the faces of children who just want to be loved and be in a family - any family. I have never felt such yearning as I did in the faces of these children who knew we were there to adopt a child, but they knew we were not there for them. It was truly heartbreaking. While our adoption of our daughter was and continues to be a wonderful thing, my memories of visiting the orphanage bring me to tears. We did go back to adopt a second daughter from the same orphanage and it was no easier the second time. In fact, it was harder because we knew 2 was our limit financially.

If people are saying gays should not adopt, they need to take a good, hard look at the thousands upon thousands of children who will grow up without a family to love them. In Russia, the majority of children who age out of the orphanage system at 16 go to a life of crime, prostitution or suicide (well above 50%.) It is an abomination to me that some people oppose gays adopting on so-called moral grounds. Is it better to allow innocent children to languish in orphanages or foster homes? To me, that is immoral and anybody who thinks a child would be better off in an orphanage than in a loving home is undeserving of a place in heaven.

This is an issue that is near and dear to my heart, despite the fact that I am not gay. Flame away if you'd like, but unless you've seen the sadness in the eyes of a child in an orphanage, you need to keep your 'morality' to yourself.

finally - Gradco - I don't know what your views are on this topic (I couldn't tell from your post.) My comments above are in general, not necessarily directed at you.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Homosexuality is a sin, and teaching children that it is an acceptable lifestyle choice is gross negligence to normal human relations.
The children are better off in an orphanage than in a gay setting.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Catonsville, MD
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Homosexuality is a sin, and teaching children that it is an acceptable lifestyle choice is gross negligence to normal human relations.
The children are better off in an orphanage than in a gay setting.

godspeed,

freedom
I'm going to have to assume you've never been to an orphanage. Children are NOT better off in an orphanage if they have a loving home offered to them. Unless you've been to an orphanage, you have no right to speak for those children. Have you adopted any from an orphanage or foster system? If you have, I would cut you a slight break. Religion has NO right to harm the life of a child.

Freedom is such an ironic screenname for you .
 
Old 06-27-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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Homosexuality is a sin, and teaching children that it is an acceptable lifestyle choice is gross negligence to normal human relations.
The children are better off in an orphanage than in a gay setting.

godspeed,

freedom
Spoken from a man NOT raised in a Russian orphanage.........
 
Old 06-27-2008, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I'm going to have to assume you've never been to an orphanage. Children are NOT better off in an orphanage if they have a loving home offered to them. Unless you've been to an orphanage, you have no right to speak for those children. Have you adopted any from an orphanage or foster system? If you have, I would cut you a slight break. Religion has NO right to harm the life of a child.
You should cut that slight break, i'm well informed to the plight of orphans and the foster care system.

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Freedom is such an ironic screenname for you .
I hear that from time to time. Freedom or Free-doom. Its about choices.
To reward a perverse lifestyle is not in the best interest of any society.

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 06-27-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Spoken from a man NOT raised in a Russian orphanage.........
Back at ya....

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 06-27-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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Which is more valuable the body or the soul? Should we abandon the soul for the sake of the body? There is no precedence for this. However there is much precedence, unfortualy, for sacrificing the body for the sake of the soul. That said, orphan’s have a special place in G-d heart. The situation should not be allowed to continue but there are other alternatives. No sacrifice on the orphan’s part should be needed or allowed.
 
Old 06-27-2008, 12:53 PM
 
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Children are adopted to couples who are on their second or more marriages. Is that not a sinful lifestyle? Yet, there is no clamoring to make that illegal. What about couples that drink alcohol? Swear? Don't go to church? Are atheist? Dance? A couple wear the woman wears revealing clothing i.e. a bikini at the beach? All of these things and more are against somebody's religious and/or moral codes, and yet we allow them. Just where does the scope of religious thought end and a secular society begin?
And for those who will be quick to say that society should be based in religion...well, whose? What if its a religion not to your liking? What if its Catholic or Hindu or Islam? The way some of you fundamentalists are, it could be a slightly different branch of Christianity and that would horrify you as well. And for the record, Catholicism is a Christian religion, I just know how some of you think
 
Old 06-27-2008, 12:55 PM
 
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Back at ya....

godspeed,

freedom
Yep, not raised in a Russian orphanage. But then I don't have to be a teenage prostitute to know that life would be a nightmare.
But hey, as long as your delicate views on morality aren't breached....then I guess those boys and girls can just ***** away! I'm sure you'll pray for them......I imagine that will keep them fed and warm and safe
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