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Old 07-02-2008, 05:13 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by saltine
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Selfish and weak.
So when someone has an incurable condition which causes him to suffer so much that he is willing to end his life, he should stay alive and suffer in agony because?

 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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So when someone has an incurable condition which causes him to suffer so much that he is willing to end his life, he should stay alive and suffer in agony because?
Because it is God's decision when to come home
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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Because it is God's decision when to come home
Then why does God make him suffer from an incurable and painful condition?
Why not simply cure the condition?
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Listen you can repent of any other sin , but how in the world are you going to repent of suicide , after the fact when you are dead and gone.By the way GOD made this world system without any harassment , violences,deception,heart break or Sin and who fault is it that's it messed up and people are goping to "Hell " is it's Gods fault or is it's Mankind.
You kind of lost me on that one. If a baby was born after the supposed evil deeds of Adam and Eve and happens to be the recipient of harassment and unrelenting taunting and emotional abuse by other kids are you saying that this kid should just literally go to hell? If I understand the beliefs of Christians I would think that we're only born once and someone who was born in recent years obviously wasn't back in the Garden of Eden exchanging high fives with the serpent (oh wait, serpents don't have hands), so why should a tormented child be picked on until they commit suicide and then have a God come in to slap them with eternal damnation? This is truly twisted thinking.
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville,Florida
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Originally Posted by GreatdayThen why does God make him suffer from an incurable and painful condition?
Why not simply cure the condition?
It might be that this person who is suffering has not accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and the Lord is waiting on this individual to do so..
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Then why does God make him suffer from an incurable and painful condition? Why not simply cure the condition?
I don't know TD - you will have to ask God what God's plan is -
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Suicide can be all of the things that have been listed here: tragic, weak, selfish, etc. but none of those things are inherently immoral, and I can't see the act as any kind of crime. I don't recommend it, though.

And, DayoftheLord: Since you went ahead and said this:

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I could say with more certainty that the atheist comedian went to hell before the person who committed suicide. But I'm hoping they all make deathbed confessions.
I'm going to offer you this advice: Keep your judgement of other people's souls to yourself and show some ******* respect.
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by noland123
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It might be that this person who is suffering has not accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and the Lord is waiting on this individual to do so..
So you believe that everyone who is suffering from an incurable condition has not accepted Jesus?
Isn't it cruel of God to let people suffer until they accept them?
This perfectly fits the definition of torture which I cannot believe a loving God would do.
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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So you believe that everyone who is suffering from an incurable condition has not accepted Jesus?

He did not say that
 
Old 07-02-2008, 05:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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I don't know TD - you will have to ask God what God's plan is -
So you would let a person suffer in terrible agony because you believe it to be God's will?
How cruel and selfish.
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