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God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
The Universe is infinite with unimaginable beginning and unimaginable end. This means the cause from which the Universe started and the same cause in which the Universe ends on dissolution is the unimaginable God. Mud is the beginning stage of the pot and also the end stage since the pot ends in the mud on destruction. The Universe exhibits the unimaginable God by its unimaginable limits of beginning and end. The space is generated from God and the dissolution of space can only show the real nature of its cause (God).
When the chain is dissolved in fire, then only the gold lump, which is the cause of the chain, appears in its original form. But even if you imagine for millions of years, you can never imagine the dissolution of space and therefore you can never imagine the original nature of God. God is beyond space and God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic.
Hence, God is a permanent wonder and the creation consists of some knowable regions of knowledge without any wonder and also some temporarily unimaginable regions with temporary wonder. Now the word Maya can be used for the wonder, which is both permanent (God) and which is temporary also (the deeper layers of the world up to the space).
God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
If the nature of God is permanently unknowable how do you actually know he really exists? If you believe that God is real you must have some basis for this belief but that seems to contradict the statement that God is unknowable.
If you believe that God is real you must have some basis for this belief but that seems to contradict the statement that God is unknowable.
Because dattaswami believes that life is an illusion?
Strip away all illusions in life and God will be the only thing left in existence. Even when you're unable to understand God.
If the nature of God is permanently unknowable how do you actually know he really exists? If you believe that God is real you must have some basis for this belief but that seems to contradict the statement that God is unknowable.
Even though God is unimaginable, He comes in human form to give His presence to us. SO that we can see Him, touch Him, talk to Him and co-live with Him. He is known as Human Incarnation. His main purpose is to uplift the human souls through divine preaching and He also does miracles. Thus Human incarnation is the proof of God. He is here alive today right now.
Even though God is unimaginable, He comes in human form to give His presence to us. SO that we can see Him, touch Him, talk to Him and co-live with Him. He is known as Human Incarnation. His main purpose is to uplift the human souls through divine preaching and He also does miracles. Thus Human incarnation is the proof of God. He is here alive today right now.
Only if you believe that Krishna is manifested in human form.
--And even then, Krishna is a part of Brahman, which means that diety is still applied. So in essence, you are saying that man possesses the duality of humanity, along with the presence of the divine.
Only if you believe that Krishna is manifested in human form.
--And even then, Krishna is a part of Brahman, which means that diety is still applied. So in essence, you are saying that man possesses the duality of humanity, along with the presence of the divine.
God is unimaginable, so nobody can directly approach Him and He is beyond human logic. But God enters the most suitable soul in this world (Son of God) and preaches the humanity. Thus Human incarnation is a mixture of God and Son of God. God speaks through the son of God. THose who see son of God will feel that Son of God is preaching. It is the invisible God present in the human body of the Son of God actually preaches.
God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
The Universe is infinite with unimaginable beginning and unimaginable end. This means the cause from which the Universe started and the same cause in which the Universe ends on dissolution is the unimaginable God. Mud is the beginning stage of the pot and also the end stage since the pot ends in the mud on destruction. The Universe exhibits the unimaginable God by its unimaginable limits of beginning and end. The space is generated from God and the dissolution of space can only show the real nature of its cause (God).
When the chain is dissolved in fire, then only the gold lump, which is the cause of the chain, appears in its original form. But even if you imagine for millions of years, you can never imagine the dissolution of space and therefore you can never imagine the original nature of God. God is beyond space and God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic.
Hence, God is a permanent wonder and the creation consists of some knowable regions of knowledge without any wonder and also some temporarily unimaginable regions with temporary wonder. Now the word Maya can be used for the wonder, which is both permanent (God) and which is temporary also (the deeper layers of the world up to the space).
Wow! What "convenient" logic to (a) disprove what can be proven and has logical basis (science) and (b) prove something that cannot be proven (god).
Other people call this "blind faith", or simply "faith". Let us leave it at this. It cannot be proven.
It seems you use a lot of words while not actually getting into any substance.
One cannot prove beliefs with word games, and you are making lots of assumptions about the universe. Although, I admit in a puzzling and almost poetic way, it nevertheless does not increase its truth value.
Wow! What "convenient" logic to (a) disprove what can be proven and has logical basis (science) and (b) prove something that cannot be proven (god).
Other people call this "blind faith", or simply "faith". Let us leave it at this. It cannot be proven.
The same Lord came to different parts of the world in different age to preach the same Divine Knowledge. All the scriptures of the world are the records of the knowledge given by the same Lord and hence cannot contradict each other. Yet we find sometimes that there are some glaring contradictions between different scriptures of the world. This is in part due to fact that the Lord taught the same truth in different ages and places in a slightly different way, so as to suit the culture and language of the people. This is only an extraneous difference. The essential knowledge is the same. Correct interpretation will remove the contradiction.
Sometimes there may be an apparent difference even in the essential meaning.
In such as case the inconsistency is probably caused by corruption of the scripture over generations. Comparison with other scriptures of the world will help in removing the corrupted portions in each scripture. Here it becomes essential to bring in experience as a prama?a or a valid means of knowledge. While comparing contradictory views in different scriptures, the view which agrees with experience or anubhuti should be taken as correct.
The same Lord came to different parts of the world in different age to preach the same Divine Knowledge. All the scriptures of the world are the records of the knowledge given by the same Lord and hence cannot contradict each other. Yet we find sometimes that there are some glaring contradictions between different scriptures of the world. This is in part due to fact that the Lord taught the same truth in different ages and places in a slightly different way, so as to suit the culture and language of the people. This is only an extraneous difference. The essential knowledge is the same. Correct interpretation will remove the contradiction.
Sometimes there may be an apparent difference even in the essential meaning.
In such as case the inconsistency is probably caused by corruption of the scripture over generations. Comparison with other scriptures of the world will help in removing the corrupted portions in each scripture. Here it becomes essential to bring in experience as a prama?a or a valid means of knowledge. While comparing contradictory views in different scriptures, the view which agrees with experience or anubhuti should be taken as correct.
I think you misunderstood me - I was not talking about variations in religion. Simply that it cannot be proven. Your original post attempted to prove something (god) that cannot be proven, and it belittled science which is based on reality.
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Because dattaswami believes that life is an illusion?
Even when you're unable to understand God.
