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Old 11-21-2008, 10:28 AM
 
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Are there situations where it is ok to break the law?

For sake of conversation lets just say U.S. Federal and State law.

Might help to do this:

1. State your religious or non religious belief or non belief
2. Your answer
3. Why
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:37 AM
 
Location: The 719
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No. It's not ok to break the law ever, but there are times when people just have to.

1. Non-denominational Christian and moreso spiritual that religious; meaning, I do the foot work and walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
2. See above.
3. Why? There are no absolutes on this planet.

There is a time to kill. A time to steal. A time to lie. If someone threatens your family, friends, even yourself in some situations, it's much better to kill and unfortunately, then you gotta pay your earthly consequences.

There's a time to steal. Your family is starving and you have no other means to feed them and it's cold. Perhaps you can beg or ask for help, but perhaps not. Shame on you for not being the provider you should, but there you are. You see a cabin out in the sticks that's currently not occupied and there's you opportunity. It's wrong, but it's for the better good.

There's a time to lie. "Honey, does this dress look ok?" You're thinkin, "Yeah, it'd look great if you'd shed about 30 pounds." But do you say this? Heck no, because it's wrong and that will cause harm.

We lie! We lie all the time! Do we not?
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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The easiest one to get almost everyone in the USA on is speeding. One mile per hour over the speed limit is in fact breaking the law, regardless of whether or not that is strictly enforced.

By the way, if a husband really loves his wife (not for her appearance), he wouldn't be concerned about her weight. That's a point well taken though.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:52 AM
 
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1. Atheist
2. Depends on the context.
3. Is the law unjust? If so, break it.
Is it impossible for one to survive without breaking said law? If so, break it.
Will breaking said law reslut in a victimless crime? If so, breaking and not breaking it will basicly have the same results.

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3. Why? There are no absolutes on this planet.
Dont most christians consider the 10 commandments to be moral absolutes?
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:56 AM
 
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The easiest one to get almost everyone in the USA on is speeding. One mile per hour over the speed limit is in fact breaking the law, regardless of whether or not that is strictly enforced.

By the way, if a husband really loves his wife (not for her appearance), he wouldn't be concerned about her weight. That's a point well taken though.
tsk tsk tsk.. didn't follow the format..

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Old 11-21-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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Logical reasoning relies on absolutes. "If, then, else then." The same applies to computer programming, the laws of nature, etc. I am not suggesting that no variables come into play, because they do all the time, however the fundamental laws upon which everything exists are absolute.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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[quote=bigthirsty;6255617]Are there situations where it is ok to break the law?

For sake of conversation lets just say U.S. Federal and State law.

Might help to do this:

1. State your religious or non religious belief or non belief

Atheist

2. Your answer
I don't believe there is a definite answer.

3. Why
Would you break a law if your life depended on it? What about means of survival? When you are in a great fear of losing your life, what would you do? Can you even reason in this situation?
When you have time to weight your actions and possible consequences, when you can reason, you probably will no break the law. When you're under pressure, or extreme fear, you can not be rational, can/will you break the law? I say yes. But that is probably a different topic on its own.
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:33 PM
 
Location: The 719
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1. Atheist
2. Depends on the context.
3. Is the law unjust? If so, break it.
Is it impossible for one to survive without breaking said law? If so, break it.
Will breaking said law reslut in a victimless crime? If so, breaking and not breaking it will basicly have the same results.

McGowdog wrote:


Dont most christians consider the 10 commandments to be moral absolutes?
Jesus didn't, so I don't either. They can be helpful though. Read the Sermon on the Mount and you'll have an idea what Jesus thought about all this.

Love God, then love your fellows... do that and you'll not break any laws; legal, or moral or otherwise. But now Jesus just isn't too closely followed by those who claimed him, is He? (If you're athiest, please don't be offended by the Carpenter references. Just pull out your make-believe caps.)
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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1. Jewish
2. No, it isn't OK.
3. Laws are not supposed to be items of convenience. Anyone could come up with a justification for breaking any law. That's convenient in the particular situation, but not necessarily right.
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Old 11-21-2008, 03:06 PM
 
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1. Jewish
2. No, it isn't OK.
3. Laws are not supposed to be items of convenience. Anyone could come up with a justification for breaking any law. That's convenient in the particular situation, but not necessarily right.
So just asking..

From a moral perspective you think its better for someone to let harm come to their family instead of breaking a law to help them?

again.. just asking.
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